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		<title>Comment on The Big Question by Randall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 09:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definition of a word is imperative. Republican, democrat, liberal and conservative have no political meaning except when used by those who want more central power and control by means of redistribution of the wealth or by those who understand little if anything.

The question is (We may even need to define what is…is), “Are you a socialist?” needs to be qualified by “By what definition of Socialist are you referring to and hammering at the question until it is answered. If a question is not answered then it should be followed by a statement such as then it is true you are a “whatever” by my definition. Then we may do surgery on the word “progressive” to state Progressive is the new socialist Nom de guerre.

Several days of congressional hearings and volumes of transcript will provide repeated questions without answers. So, by their deeds shall you know them.

The Words Constitution, democracy and republic are Noms de guerre. I know by the usage and the lumping together in linkage tactics, the obfuscation and lack of discernment that an issue is framed and the controversy is orchestrated by the Maestro.

In linkage we do ourselves harm if we do not understand if the words of a Glen Beck and a Bill O’Reilly ( “likes of O’Reilly and Glen Beck as a “Progressive.”) are not in deed and in fact different by degree. The question then: “is the degree enough leaven to the argument to affect the entire loaf?”  In other words, WE WHO LOVE FREEDOM, as an “Austrian School Economist and Libertarian would define it, need to know how to win! We win by inclusion of the like minded (or close enough ) and shaping the argument! Because, I can tell you those of the opposing ilk most certainly know how to ban together and use words to shape the argument to win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definition of a word is imperative. Republican, democrat, liberal and conservative have no political meaning except when used by those who want more central power and control by means of redistribution of the wealth or by those who understand little if anything.</p>
<p>The question is (We may even need to define what is…is), “Are you a socialist?” needs to be qualified by “By what definition of Socialist are you referring to and hammering at the question until it is answered. If a question is not answered then it should be followed by a statement such as then it is true you are a “whatever” by my definition. Then we may do surgery on the word “progressive” to state Progressive is the new socialist Nom de guerre.</p>
<p>Several days of congressional hearings and volumes of transcript will provide repeated questions without answers. So, by their deeds shall you know them.</p>
<p>The Words Constitution, democracy and republic are Noms de guerre. I know by the usage and the lumping together in linkage tactics, the obfuscation and lack of discernment that an issue is framed and the controversy is orchestrated by the Maestro.</p>
<p>In linkage we do ourselves harm if we do not understand if the words of a Glen Beck and a Bill O’Reilly ( “likes of O’Reilly and Glen Beck as a “Progressive.”) are not in deed and in fact different by degree. The question then: “is the degree enough leaven to the argument to affect the entire loaf?”  In other words, WE WHO LOVE FREEDOM, as an “Austrian School Economist and Libertarian would define it, need to know how to win! We win by inclusion of the like minded (or close enough ) and shaping the argument! Because, I can tell you those of the opposing ilk most certainly know how to ban together and use words to shape the argument to win.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Big Question by Paul Anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 06:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a socialist system, the government owns all means of production. Contrast that definition with that of the Fascist. Fascists advocate the creation of a single-party state. Fascist governments forbid and suppress openness and opposition to the fascist state and the fascist movement. Fascists oppose capitalism and the democratic concept of individualism. 

In the economic sphere, fascist leaders support a &quot;Third Way&quot; in economic policy, which they believe to be superior to both the rampant individualism of unrestrained capitalism and the severe control of state socialism. This is achieved by establishing significant government control over business and labor. 

Obama is not a socialist - he is a fascist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a socialist system, the government owns all means of production. Contrast that definition with that of the Fascist. Fascists advocate the creation of a single-party state. Fascist governments forbid and suppress openness and opposition to the fascist state and the fascist movement. Fascists oppose capitalism and the democratic concept of individualism. </p>
<p>In the economic sphere, fascist leaders support a &#8220;Third Way&#8221; in economic policy, which they believe to be superior to both the rampant individualism of unrestrained capitalism and the severe control of state socialism. This is achieved by establishing significant government control over business and labor. </p>
<p>Obama is not a socialist &#8211; he is a fascist.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Big Question by gettinuglier</title>
		<link>http://blog.robertringer.com/2010/03/08/the-big-question/comment-page-1/#comment-1669</link>
		<dc:creator>gettinuglier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 04:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The really simple (and self-evident answer is no. He&#039;s not a Socialist, HE&#039;S A COMMUNIST! Some people are afraid of the word. It&#039;s been conditioned out of them (hey, you must be one of them conspiracy nuts). I&#039;m not a conspiracy nut, just a student of history. A lot can be learned from Victoria Jackson&#039;s song on YouTube if you really listen to the lyrics instead of laughing at the &quot;ditzy blonde&quot; singing it. it is actually quite thoughtful.

Here is the url if you want to be entertained AND educated: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWi182CMJY8</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The really simple (and self-evident answer is no. He&#8217;s not a Socialist, HE&#8217;S A COMMUNIST! Some people are afraid of the word. It&#8217;s been conditioned out of them (hey, you must be one of them conspiracy nuts). I&#8217;m not a conspiracy nut, just a student of history. A lot can be learned from Victoria Jackson&#8217;s song on YouTube if you really listen to the lyrics instead of laughing at the &#8220;ditzy blonde&#8221; singing it. it is actually quite thoughtful.</p>
<p>Here is the url if you want to be entertained AND educated: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWi182CMJY8" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWi182CMJY8</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on The Big Question by Robert Bonter</title>
		<link>http://blog.robertringer.com/2010/03/08/the-big-question/comment-page-1/#comment-1668</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Bonter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 19:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it is so obvious our President is a &quot;Socialist,&quot; why is he referred to, by the likes of O&#039;Reilly and Glen Beck as a &quot;Progressive.&quot;  Blowing up your own country - economically, socially, spiritually, and morally is &quot;progress.&quot;  McCain is not the only jellyfish spine ameoba out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it is so obvious our President is a &#8220;Socialist,&#8221; why is he referred to, by the likes of O&#8217;Reilly and Glen Beck as a &#8220;Progressive.&#8221;  Blowing up your own country &#8211; economically, socially, spiritually, and morally is &#8220;progress.&#8221;  McCain is not the only jellyfish spine ameoba out there.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Big Question by deusimplicitus</title>
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		<dc:creator>deusimplicitus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 17:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The biggest problem I&#039;ve had with being a full supporters of the Republican Party is that they have NO SPINE! The Democrats are willing to fight and often lose because they stick with their socialist agenda, but the Republicans just can&#039;t seem to articulate a firm and no comprise message and then STICK WITH IT when they are in power.

Until they do, the Republican Party will flounder and will be defined by inconsistencies and lack of credibility. They will continue to be seen as the &quot;lesser of two evils&quot; instead of the clear and reasonable choice for a stronger and more free United States.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The biggest problem I&#8217;ve had with being a full supporters of the Republican Party is that they have NO SPINE! The Democrats are willing to fight and often lose because they stick with their socialist agenda, but the Republicans just can&#8217;t seem to articulate a firm and no comprise message and then STICK WITH IT when they are in power.</p>
<p>Until they do, the Republican Party will flounder and will be defined by inconsistencies and lack of credibility. They will continue to be seen as the &#8220;lesser of two evils&#8221; instead of the clear and reasonable choice for a stronger and more free United States.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Big Question by Reality seeker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reality seeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 17:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, too, have to agree with Mr. Ringer&#039;s underlying premise that it is utterly absurd that anybody---especially the political pundits, politicians, news-people and those who are in the know--- could, at this point, even be asking such silly questions such as this one: &quot;Do you believe Barack Obama is a socialist?&quot; 

I just finished watching the movie Alice In Wonderland starring Johnny Depp as the Mad Hatter, and I must tell you something: As I followed Alice down the Rabbit Hole, I felt as if I entered a world more sane than the one that I left behind me. Without a doubt, the politicos of Washington D.C. could teach those who inhabit Wonderland a thing or two about crazy. You want crazy? We got your crazy right here in Washington---starring you know whom.

Asking if you know whom is a socialist is like asking if the Mad Hatter is ....MAD!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, too, have to agree with Mr. Ringer&#8217;s underlying premise that it is utterly absurd that anybody&#8212;especially the political pundits, politicians, news-people and those who are in the know&#8212; could, at this point, even be asking such silly questions such as this one: &#8220;Do you believe Barack Obama is a socialist?&#8221; </p>
<p>I just finished watching the movie Alice In Wonderland starring Johnny Depp as the Mad Hatter, and I must tell you something: As I followed Alice down the Rabbit Hole, I felt as if I entered a world more sane than the one that I left behind me. Without a doubt, the politicos of Washington D.C. could teach those who inhabit Wonderland a thing or two about crazy. You want crazy? We got your crazy right here in Washington&#8212;starring you know whom.</p>
<p>Asking if you know whom is a socialist is like asking if the Mad Hatter is &#8230;.MAD!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Coming Runaway Inflation by jfeka</title>
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		<dc:creator>jfeka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 14:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually conducting business in a highly inflationary economy is not as difficult as it might seem.

What it takes is an adaptation which has happened in many countries that have experienced this.  Chile, is one example that I&#039;m familiar with.

When inflation was rampant in Chile business contracts which spread over a period of time were written up in a new &quot;currency&quot; which they called UF (short for Unidades de Fomento -- or Development Units.)  These UF are readjusted on a daily basis, according to a formula which is somewhat similar to the Consumer Price Index.

So if you take out a loan, you express the amount you borrow and your monthly payments in UF and, as long as inflation continues, each payment increases according to the published figures.

You can buy insurance expressed in UF and many other transactions such as property, pension payments, etc. are also conducted using this alternate currency.

I&#039;d be quite surprised if the US does enter into a period of high inflation to not see something similar to this come into play.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually conducting business in a highly inflationary economy is not as difficult as it might seem.</p>
<p>What it takes is an adaptation which has happened in many countries that have experienced this.  Chile, is one example that I&#8217;m familiar with.</p>
<p>When inflation was rampant in Chile business contracts which spread over a period of time were written up in a new &#8220;currency&#8221; which they called UF (short for Unidades de Fomento &#8212; or Development Units.)  These UF are readjusted on a daily basis, according to a formula which is somewhat similar to the Consumer Price Index.</p>
<p>So if you take out a loan, you express the amount you borrow and your monthly payments in UF and, as long as inflation continues, each payment increases according to the published figures.</p>
<p>You can buy insurance expressed in UF and many other transactions such as property, pension payments, etc. are also conducted using this alternate currency.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be quite surprised if the US does enter into a period of high inflation to not see something similar to this come into play.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Coming Runaway Inflation by Reality seeker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reality seeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 04:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kleptocracy: A government characterized by rampant thievery and corruption.(i.e. The U.S. Government)

Yes, I agree with this excellent description. Deusimplicitus you hit the nail right on the head.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kleptocracy: A government characterized by rampant thievery and corruption.(i.e. The U.S. Government)</p>
<p>Yes, I agree with this excellent description. Deusimplicitus you hit the nail right on the head.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Coming Runaway Inflation by deusimplicitus</title>
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		<dc:creator>deusimplicitus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 15:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kleptocracy, alternatively cleptocracy or kleptarchy, from Greek kleptes (thieves) and kratos (rule), is a term applied to a government that takes advantage of governmental corruption to extend the personal wealth and political power of government officials and the ruling class (collectively, kleptocrats), via the embezzlement of state funds at the expense of the wider population, sometimes without even the pretense of honest service. The term means &quot;rule by thieves&quot;. Not an &quot;official&quot; form of government (such as democracy, republic, monarchy, theocracy) the term is a pejorative for governments perceived to have a particularly severe and systemic problem with the selfish misappropriation of public funds by those in power.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kleptocracy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kleptocracy, alternatively cleptocracy or kleptarchy, from Greek kleptes (thieves) and kratos (rule), is a term applied to a government that takes advantage of governmental corruption to extend the personal wealth and political power of government officials and the ruling class (collectively, kleptocrats), via the embezzlement of state funds at the expense of the wider population, sometimes without even the pretense of honest service. The term means &#8220;rule by thieves&#8221;. Not an &#8220;official&#8221; form of government (such as democracy, republic, monarchy, theocracy) the term is a pejorative for governments perceived to have a particularly severe and systemic problem with the selfish misappropriation of public funds by those in power.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kleptocracy" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kleptocracy</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on The Coming Runaway Inflation by Randall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 05:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The future is disorder. a door like this has cracked open five or six times since we got up onto our hind legs. It is the best possible time to be alive, when almost everything you thought you knew is wrong.&quot; -Tom Stoppard, Arcadia

&quot;Of all 36 ways to get out of trouble, the best way is-leave.&quot; -Chinese Proverb 

Bye Bye Big Brother- Gone PT- Grandpa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The future is disorder. a door like this has cracked open five or six times since we got up onto our hind legs. It is the best possible time to be alive, when almost everything you thought you knew is wrong.&#8221; -Tom Stoppard, Arcadia</p>
<p>&#8220;Of all 36 ways to get out of trouble, the best way is-leave.&#8221; -Chinese Proverb </p>
<p>Bye Bye Big Brother- Gone PT- Grandpa</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Coming Runaway Inflation by deusimplicitus</title>
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		<dc:creator>deusimplicitus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So many Americans are just so clueless, out to lunch, and completely disinterested at making an attempt in understanding the horrific and frightening national financial situation. Their view is myopic and as long as they&#039;re entertained by Hollywood gossip, sporting events, black hole television programming, and the like, the politicians will lead and enough fools will follow......taking us all right over the cliff.

Like a few of the people who have recognized the path we&#039;ve been on as a nation and the accruing balloon note that will have to be paid, one way or another, the quality of life for the average American is going to dramatically decline in the not too distant future.

The irony will be that this will come as a complete and total shock to millions of Americans who refused, or didn&#039;t have enough intelligence, to look at the clear political and financial reality that was clearly discernible and right in front of their eyes.  As long as the gravy train was rolling in the present and handing out loot, they were too complacent to consider the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So many Americans are just so clueless, out to lunch, and completely disinterested at making an attempt in understanding the horrific and frightening national financial situation. Their view is myopic and as long as they&#8217;re entertained by Hollywood gossip, sporting events, black hole television programming, and the like, the politicians will lead and enough fools will follow&#8230;&#8230;taking us all right over the cliff.</p>
<p>Like a few of the people who have recognized the path we&#8217;ve been on as a nation and the accruing balloon note that will have to be paid, one way or another, the quality of life for the average American is going to dramatically decline in the not too distant future.</p>
<p>The irony will be that this will come as a complete and total shock to millions of Americans who refused, or didn&#8217;t have enough intelligence, to look at the clear political and financial reality that was clearly discernible and right in front of their eyes.  As long as the gravy train was rolling in the present and handing out loot, they were too complacent to consider the future.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Coming Runaway Inflation by Reality seeker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reality seeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. Inflation and/or stagflation is a given at this point. A future move by the government to devalue the dollar is also highly likely. At best, dollar devaluation will only postpone hyperinflation. 

If John Maynard Keynes was alive and well, he would be horrified at what the government has done with the money supply. Dr. Keynes developed his theory of money as a means to offer limited, stop-gap spending by the federal government to ameliorate suffering and preserve capitalism. 

It is neither a mistake nor a misunderstanding; It is a crime, the way in which those who currently control the money supply are acting. Criminal acts are being committed that jeopardize the future of America. Allen Greenspan(aka the Prince Of Darkness) turned himself away and betrayed everything that he ever learned from Ayn Rand. As I watched the Prince Of Darkness destroy the dollar as a medium of exchange, I knew that in the end things would turn out badly. Greenspan&#039;s young apprentice, Ben Shalom Bernanke, will finish what the Prince Of Darkness started, and drive us all further down &quot;The Road To Serfdom.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. Inflation and/or stagflation is a given at this point. A future move by the government to devalue the dollar is also highly likely. At best, dollar devaluation will only postpone hyperinflation. </p>
<p>If John Maynard Keynes was alive and well, he would be horrified at what the government has done with the money supply. Dr. Keynes developed his theory of money as a means to offer limited, stop-gap spending by the federal government to ameliorate suffering and preserve capitalism. </p>
<p>It is neither a mistake nor a misunderstanding; It is a crime, the way in which those who currently control the money supply are acting. Criminal acts are being committed that jeopardize the future of America. Allen Greenspan(aka the Prince Of Darkness) turned himself away and betrayed everything that he ever learned from Ayn Rand. As I watched the Prince Of Darkness destroy the dollar as a medium of exchange, I knew that in the end things would turn out badly. Greenspan&#8217;s young apprentice, Ben Shalom Bernanke, will finish what the Prince Of Darkness started, and drive us all further down &#8220;The Road To Serfdom.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Coming Runaway Inflation by Robert Bonter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Bonter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I woke up this moring thinking about the two primary characteristics of our (and just about any) government, and why governments, throughout history, even &quot;empires,&quot; have failed, long-term...

1.  Government (expediently, to buy more time)devalues and ultimatelydestroys its own currency, the lifeblood of every society.

2.  Failed governmental economic policies, such as inflation, exhorbitant debt, and rabid dog spending prompt government to seek the &quot;quck fix&quot; of savaging the estate net worth and freedoms (see: victimless criminalization statutes and foreign investment proscriptions) of its own citizenry via the all too often, trumped-up expropriation of corportate and individual property, net worth, and basic freedoms of choice and speech.

When currency value, basic freedoms, and assets are usurped and destroyed, the pertpetrating system of government is foreordained to collapse.  The Roman Empire may be the best example of policy excesses and internal corruption leading to inevitable and dramatic downfall, in world history.  Our nation, today, shows all the signs of going the same way, especially when you factor rampant corruption and influence-peddling, not just at the top, but throughout the system, into the mix.  Short-term patching always has, and always will undermine long-term planning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I woke up this moring thinking about the two primary characteristics of our (and just about any) government, and why governments, throughout history, even &#8220;empires,&#8221; have failed, long-term&#8230;</p>
<p>1.  Government (expediently, to buy more time)devalues and ultimatelydestroys its own currency, the lifeblood of every society.</p>
<p>2.  Failed governmental economic policies, such as inflation, exhorbitant debt, and rabid dog spending prompt government to seek the &#8220;quck fix&#8221; of savaging the estate net worth and freedoms (see: victimless criminalization statutes and foreign investment proscriptions) of its own citizenry via the all too often, trumped-up expropriation of corportate and individual property, net worth, and basic freedoms of choice and speech.</p>
<p>When currency value, basic freedoms, and assets are usurped and destroyed, the pertpetrating system of government is foreordained to collapse.  The Roman Empire may be the best example of policy excesses and internal corruption leading to inevitable and dramatic downfall, in world history.  Our nation, today, shows all the signs of going the same way, especially when you factor rampant corruption and influence-peddling, not just at the top, but throughout the system, into the mix.  Short-term patching always has, and always will undermine long-term planning.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Huckabee Drops Out of the Running by Tom Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 15:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wasn&#039;t aware of the Colter trap. Thank you. Also, I&#039;ve only seen a few of his shows. I certainly was surprised when I found out Mrs. Obama would be on the show. Now it&#039;s making sense. Thanks for that information. 

He&#039;s no longer credible in any way as a conservative or Republican candidate. He&#039;s got a taste of good life, slobbering audiences, and now he must go for the Neilson Number gold to stay there. You have to know he made a deal with the White House to get Michelle Obama on the show. 

What&#039;s next A Fox Special where Hannity and Beck do a tag team match between Huckabee and Alan Colmes? That&#039;ll get some numbers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t aware of the Colter trap. Thank you. Also, I&#8217;ve only seen a few of his shows. I certainly was surprised when I found out Mrs. Obama would be on the show. Now it&#8217;s making sense. Thanks for that information. </p>
<p>He&#8217;s no longer credible in any way as a conservative or Republican candidate. He&#8217;s got a taste of good life, slobbering audiences, and now he must go for the Neilson Number gold to stay there. You have to know he made a deal with the White House to get Michelle Obama on the show. </p>
<p>What&#8217;s next A Fox Special where Hannity and Beck do a tag team match between Huckabee and Alan Colmes? That&#8217;ll get some numbers.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Huckabee Drops Out of the Running by Reality seeker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reality seeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 01:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Quinn, I like your straightforwardly distrustful style; I too, don&#039;t trust Palin when it comes to starting a nuclear war. I&#039;ve never seen so many snakes, scorpions, and black widow spiders grouped together in one place as I&#039;ve seen in the corporate news media---except for Washington. 

The Muslim In Chief&#039;s wife (aka the Snake In Chief) must have felt right at home getting interviewed on Fox News. I stopped watching Fox News(except for Beck) shortly after Mr. Bill The Shill Oreilly (aka Mr. Zero) interviewed ....eh...I mean Hailed ObaMeinFuhrer when he was a candidate for president.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Quinn, I like your straightforwardly distrustful style; I too, don&#8217;t trust Palin when it comes to starting a nuclear war. I&#8217;ve never seen so many snakes, scorpions, and black widow spiders grouped together in one place as I&#8217;ve seen in the corporate news media&#8212;except for Washington. </p>
<p>The Muslim In Chief&#8217;s wife (aka the Snake In Chief) must have felt right at home getting interviewed on Fox News. I stopped watching Fox News(except for Beck) shortly after Mr. Bill The Shill Oreilly (aka Mr. Zero) interviewed &#8230;.eh&#8230;I mean Hailed ObaMeinFuhrer when he was a candidate for president.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Huckabee Drops Out of the Running by whosiwhatzit</title>
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		<dc:creator>whosiwhatzit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 23:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Mr. Ringer for keeping us up to date on the Huckster.  I was unaware that he had ambushed Ann Coulter.  He fooled a lot of folks in the last presidential election cycle, but I have to say he appears to either be pandering to the mushy middle, or, as you say, he&#039;s decided he doesn&#039;t care to run in 2012.  I suspect he&#039;s comfortable as the &quot;touchy - feely&quot; talk show host.  Fine with me.  I don&#039;t watch his show anyway.  If he continues on the path he&#039;s established at FNC, I suspect his viewership will erode.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Mr. Ringer for keeping us up to date on the Huckster.  I was unaware that he had ambushed Ann Coulter.  He fooled a lot of folks in the last presidential election cycle, but I have to say he appears to either be pandering to the mushy middle, or, as you say, he&#8217;s decided he doesn&#8217;t care to run in 2012.  I suspect he&#8217;s comfortable as the &#8220;touchy &#8211; feely&#8221; talk show host.  Fine with me.  I don&#8217;t watch his show anyway.  If he continues on the path he&#8217;s established at FNC, I suspect his viewership will erode.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Huckabee Drops Out of the Running by Reality seeker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reality seeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 02:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Ringer, thank you for keeping us informed about Mr. Huckabee (aka Mr. Huckster) All of us are trying to do the best we can in evaluating public figures who want to become leaders. Personally, I haven&#039;t had the time to follow everyone. I wrote off Mike Huckabee, Bill O&#039;reilly, and most of the Fox News team as being only dimly aware of personal liberties, particularly those liberties pertaining to firearms. 

When the system totally collapses and the government declares a state of emergency, I&#039;m sure we can count on Fox News to support gun and gold confiscation under the guise of paper-currency stability and public safety. Yes, Bill The Schill O&#039;reilly will be right there as the front man justifying the forcible disarming of the public for &quot;public safety reasons.&quot; 

Frankly, I never did trust Mike Huckabee, not even a little bit. I have a rule of thumb that hardly ever fails me: The more religious public figures are the less I trust them. Mike is too religious for me to trust him. Now if he were quietly doing God&#039;s work and I could see some genuine humility, then that would be different. Religious zealotry is one big reason why I&#039;m still waiting for Glenn Beck to disappoint me; However, aside from a few irritating exceptions, Mr. Beck continues to exceed my expectations. I try my very best to be critical of Mr. Beck, but so far he seems like the real deal. Individuals, like Alex Jones, whom I also respect, hate Mr. Beck&#039;s guts and think he&#039;s &quot;Benedict Beck.&quot; Time will tell if that&#039;s true or not; If Mr. Beck is a wolf in sheep&#039;s clothing, then all I can say is this: Do as he says and not as he does. As a person, Mr. Beck is not my kind, but the educational work that he&#039;s doing is a great service to America--- light years ahead of Huckabee&#039;s work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Ringer, thank you for keeping us informed about Mr. Huckabee (aka Mr. Huckster) All of us are trying to do the best we can in evaluating public figures who want to become leaders. Personally, I haven&#8217;t had the time to follow everyone. I wrote off Mike Huckabee, Bill O&#8217;reilly, and most of the Fox News team as being only dimly aware of personal liberties, particularly those liberties pertaining to firearms. </p>
<p>When the system totally collapses and the government declares a state of emergency, I&#8217;m sure we can count on Fox News to support gun and gold confiscation under the guise of paper-currency stability and public safety. Yes, Bill The Schill O&#8217;reilly will be right there as the front man justifying the forcible disarming of the public for &#8220;public safety reasons.&#8221; </p>
<p>Frankly, I never did trust Mike Huckabee, not even a little bit. I have a rule of thumb that hardly ever fails me: The more religious public figures are the less I trust them. Mike is too religious for me to trust him. Now if he were quietly doing God&#8217;s work and I could see some genuine humility, then that would be different. Religious zealotry is one big reason why I&#8217;m still waiting for Glenn Beck to disappoint me; However, aside from a few irritating exceptions, Mr. Beck continues to exceed my expectations. I try my very best to be critical of Mr. Beck, but so far he seems like the real deal. Individuals, like Alex Jones, whom I also respect, hate Mr. Beck&#8217;s guts and think he&#8217;s &#8220;Benedict Beck.&#8221; Time will tell if that&#8217;s true or not; If Mr. Beck is a wolf in sheep&#8217;s clothing, then all I can say is this: Do as he says and not as he does. As a person, Mr. Beck is not my kind, but the educational work that he&#8217;s doing is a great service to America&#8212; light years ahead of Huckabee&#8217;s work.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Huckabee Drops Out of the Running by Duane Quinn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duane Quinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 18:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everything about Huksterbee is disgusting...
Stupid facial expressions, cute little voice and replies...
A  true Megan Mcpain republican...
His media role is &quot;middle of the road&quot; much like the vile OReilly and disgusting &quot;conservative radio host&quot; Smerconich. 

Remember when Huksterbee was governor he was letting hundreds of violent (mostly negro) criminals out of prisons to secure votes for himself? Does anyone recall that a couple of months ago one of the vicious, vile, cowardly serial negro criminals executed 4 white police officers in Washington State as they did paperwork while drinking coffee in a coffeee shop?
  This was DIRECTLY as a result of Huksterbee&#039;s securing of votes for himself...
  Sarah Palin may possibly be more vile than Huksterbee...
The zionists who own her (secretly jewish Rupert Murdoch) are hoping she&#039;ll be their next &quot;George Bush&quot; and nuke Iran at their request. Did anyone notice vile Sarah Palin was wearing an israeli flag pin to appease her &quot;owners&quot; at the scam teaparty convention 2 weeks ago? 
This &quot;TRASH&quot; will do or say ANYTHING to be elected to national office... Including KILL millions of innocent people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everything about Huksterbee is disgusting&#8230;<br />
Stupid facial expressions, cute little voice and replies&#8230;<br />
A  true Megan Mcpain republican&#8230;<br />
His media role is &#8220;middle of the road&#8221; much like the vile OReilly and disgusting &#8220;conservative radio host&#8221; Smerconich. </p>
<p>Remember when Huksterbee was governor he was letting hundreds of violent (mostly negro) criminals out of prisons to secure votes for himself? Does anyone recall that a couple of months ago one of the vicious, vile, cowardly serial negro criminals executed 4 white police officers in Washington State as they did paperwork while drinking coffee in a coffeee shop?<br />
  This was DIRECTLY as a result of Huksterbee&#8217;s securing of votes for himself&#8230;<br />
  Sarah Palin may possibly be more vile than Huksterbee&#8230;<br />
The zionists who own her (secretly jewish Rupert Murdoch) are hoping she&#8217;ll be their next &#8220;George Bush&#8221; and nuke Iran at their request. Did anyone notice vile Sarah Palin was wearing an israeli flag pin to appease her &#8220;owners&#8221; at the scam teaparty convention 2 weeks ago?<br />
This &#8220;TRASH&#8221; will do or say ANYTHING to be elected to national office&#8230; Including KILL millions of innocent people.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Saying Yes to the Party of No by AveryHorton</title>
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		<dc:creator>AveryHorton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 00:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I fear that another civil war is the only way to reclaim our liberty.”

The problem is WE THE PEOPLE ARE DIVIDED.  Only if Texas or WASHINGTON, OREGON and IDAHO, try to break free of the union, will there be a chance.  

What happened to the U.S.S.R. could happen here.  

WE THE PEOPLE should NOT be sending the bulk of our taxes to Washington, DC.  They should get the least of our taxes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I fear that another civil war is the only way to reclaim our liberty.”</p>
<p>The problem is WE THE PEOPLE ARE DIVIDED.  Only if Texas or WASHINGTON, OREGON and IDAHO, try to break free of the union, will there be a chance.  </p>
<p>What happened to the U.S.S.R. could happen here.  </p>
<p>WE THE PEOPLE should NOT be sending the bulk of our taxes to Washington, DC.  They should get the least of our taxes.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Making Unemployment Obsolete by BigD</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 18:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thinking that taking money from those who provide jobs and giving it to someone for not producing will end unemployment should make any rational person shake their head in amusement and disgust.  We know politicians know it doesn&#039;t work and that it&#039;s only a bribe to keep voters, but why ordinary people would shut off their common sense and believe it is beyond me.

But then again, most people have this crazy idea that they have a right to be free from the consequences and responsiblities of life, so I guess it shouldn&#039;t be surprising. Too bad for them that reality can&#039;t be denied.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thinking that taking money from those who provide jobs and giving it to someone for not producing will end unemployment should make any rational person shake their head in amusement and disgust.  We know politicians know it doesn&#8217;t work and that it&#8217;s only a bribe to keep voters, but why ordinary people would shut off their common sense and believe it is beyond me.</p>
<p>But then again, most people have this crazy idea that they have a right to be free from the consequences and responsiblities of life, so I guess it shouldn&#8217;t be surprising. Too bad for them that reality can&#8217;t be denied.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Unvarnished Truth by pfolkler</title>
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		<dc:creator>pfolkler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 09:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert, there is one &quot;politician&quot; who does speak the unvarnished truth:  Ron Paul.  I understand you disagree with him on foreign policy and the so called &quot;war on terror&quot;... 

By the by, can someone explain to me how you can declare war on a &quot;Tactic&quot;?  A method of war where the weak fight back successfully against the strong?

It makes no more sense than the &quot;war on drugs&quot;.  

But then the purpose of these is not the defense of the United States, just as it is not the protection of our children from drug abuse.

It is all about power. You will never ever have liberty when you give others the ability to start endless wars in your name.

The Homeland Security fascist state is a direct result of the war on terror.

You want respect for private property? Just as soon as they root out the very last terrorist and we all enter the promised land of safety.

The welfare/warfare state is one hydra, you can not allow one branch to continue if you want to kill it. 

Government is FORCE, nothing more. Thus we have the current administration policy of murder of US citizens, if they are deemed to be enemy combatants.

If that is ok with you all, then we are doomed to continue exactly as we are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert, there is one &#8220;politician&#8221; who does speak the unvarnished truth:  Ron Paul.  I understand you disagree with him on foreign policy and the so called &#8220;war on terror&#8221;&#8230; </p>
<p>By the by, can someone explain to me how you can declare war on a &#8220;Tactic&#8221;?  A method of war where the weak fight back successfully against the strong?</p>
<p>It makes no more sense than the &#8220;war on drugs&#8221;.  </p>
<p>But then the purpose of these is not the defense of the United States, just as it is not the protection of our children from drug abuse.</p>
<p>It is all about power. You will never ever have liberty when you give others the ability to start endless wars in your name.</p>
<p>The Homeland Security fascist state is a direct result of the war on terror.</p>
<p>You want respect for private property? Just as soon as they root out the very last terrorist and we all enter the promised land of safety.</p>
<p>The welfare/warfare state is one hydra, you can not allow one branch to continue if you want to kill it. </p>
<p>Government is FORCE, nothing more. Thus we have the current administration policy of murder of US citizens, if they are deemed to be enemy combatants.</p>
<p>If that is ok with you all, then we are doomed to continue exactly as we are.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Saying Yes to the Party of No by joshchambers</title>
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		<dc:creator>joshchambers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 21:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it&#039;s been about a year and a half since I wrote saying pretty much the same thing.  I maintain what I said then, that if shown to the majority of military officers that they swore an oath to uphold the CONSTITUTION, and that Comrade Obama is using it for toilet paper, I think at least 60-70% of the military would side with the revolutionaries.  Yes, some of them are solid communists who think everything that&#039;s happening is right and good, but there&#039;s enough of them that actually love this country that there&#039;s a chance to survive.  At least, that&#039;s what I hope.  Perhaps the time has come though for each of us to ask: Even if this is likely to be a fight we will lose, should it not still be fought?  The answer to that question may literally be a matter of life or death.  I know which one I choose.  Hell, I&#039;ve been getting ready for the camps for over a year now.  There&#039;s plenty on record at the college I attend to put me high up already on that lovely list of right-wing radicals and terrorists.  I disagree with the current administration, and I haven&#039;t tried to hide it.  It&#039;s a great time to be alive!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it&#8217;s been about a year and a half since I wrote saying pretty much the same thing.  I maintain what I said then, that if shown to the majority of military officers that they swore an oath to uphold the CONSTITUTION, and that Comrade Obama is using it for toilet paper, I think at least 60-70% of the military would side with the revolutionaries.  Yes, some of them are solid communists who think everything that&#8217;s happening is right and good, but there&#8217;s enough of them that actually love this country that there&#8217;s a chance to survive.  At least, that&#8217;s what I hope.  Perhaps the time has come though for each of us to ask: Even if this is likely to be a fight we will lose, should it not still be fought?  The answer to that question may literally be a matter of life or death.  I know which one I choose.  Hell, I&#8217;ve been getting ready for the camps for over a year now.  There&#8217;s plenty on record at the college I attend to put me high up already on that lovely list of right-wing radicals and terrorists.  I disagree with the current administration, and I haven&#8217;t tried to hide it.  It&#8217;s a great time to be alive!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Saying Yes to the Party of No by vw55</title>
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		<dc:creator>vw55</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that American military personnel are different than, say, Venezuelan, Cuban, or any third world country&#039;s military personnel.

Americans soldiers who believe in the founding principles of our nation will not follow orders from a socialist or communist President (or self-proclaimed dictator) - especially if those orders are in complete contradiction to the constitutional rights afforded our leaders.

Check the following link out for yourself:

http://oathkeepers.ning.com/main/invitation/new?xg_source=msg_wel_network

Regards,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that American military personnel are different than, say, Venezuelan, Cuban, or any third world country&#8217;s military personnel.</p>
<p>Americans soldiers who believe in the founding principles of our nation will not follow orders from a socialist or communist President (or self-proclaimed dictator) &#8211; especially if those orders are in complete contradiction to the constitutional rights afforded our leaders.</p>
<p>Check the following link out for yourself:</p>
<p><a href="http://oathkeepers.ning.com/main/invitation/new?xg_source=msg_wel_network" rel="nofollow">http://oathkeepers.ning.com/main/invitation/new?xg_source=msg_wel_network</a></p>
<p>Regards,</p>
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		<title>Comment on Saying Yes to the Party of No by overwhelmedinMA</title>
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		<dc:creator>overwhelmedinMA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 19:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Call me a dreamer Robert...but I still believe and pray that we the 70% of American &quot;good guys&quot; still have enough power to make a difference in the future direction of our country. As a resident of Massachuetts who witnessed first hand the election of Scott Brown, our voices can still be heard around the world. However, I agree with you that Mr. Obama and his Progressive followers will do everything possible to take control of our lives and freedoms. Their organization is very strong and as things continue to get more difficult for them they will use whatever means possible to gain control. Like you, Glenn Beck mentioned on a recent broadcast that you might want to stock-up on extra food and other provisions because our lifestyle CAN change 180 degrees in a matter of minutes let alone days. Comments like these can bring strange looks from people if you know what I mean. But I do have a few neighbors that agree with me and we are planning to begin working on plans to prepare for the worst in hope for the best. I pray everyday for our country and will do whatever it takes to spread the principles of our Constitution and our rights as Americans. Thank you for everything you have done to help lead us with truth and patriotism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Call me a dreamer Robert&#8230;but I still believe and pray that we the 70% of American &#8220;good guys&#8221; still have enough power to make a difference in the future direction of our country. As a resident of Massachuetts who witnessed first hand the election of Scott Brown, our voices can still be heard around the world. However, I agree with you that Mr. Obama and his Progressive followers will do everything possible to take control of our lives and freedoms. Their organization is very strong and as things continue to get more difficult for them they will use whatever means possible to gain control. Like you, Glenn Beck mentioned on a recent broadcast that you might want to stock-up on extra food and other provisions because our lifestyle CAN change 180 degrees in a matter of minutes let alone days. Comments like these can bring strange looks from people if you know what I mean. But I do have a few neighbors that agree with me and we are planning to begin working on plans to prepare for the worst in hope for the best. I pray everyday for our country and will do whatever it takes to spread the principles of our Constitution and our rights as Americans. Thank you for everything you have done to help lead us with truth and patriotism.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Saying Yes to the Party of No by garygile</title>
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		<dc:creator>garygile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 18:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your article came at a good time as I just finished reading an article in Sunday&#039;s newspaper titled &quot;Right back to the drawing board&quot;.  It was about the GOP getting back to their roots by updating their &quot;Contract From America&quot;.

If the GOP is going to survive it needs to toss out their liberal members and get back to  less government and less government interference with private enterprise.  If I didn&#039;t know better i would say you and the article were working together to help wake up the silent majority.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your article came at a good time as I just finished reading an article in Sunday&#8217;s newspaper titled &#8220;Right back to the drawing board&#8221;.  It was about the GOP getting back to their roots by updating their &#8220;Contract From America&#8221;.</p>
<p>If the GOP is going to survive it needs to toss out their liberal members and get back to  less government and less government interference with private enterprise.  If I didn&#8217;t know better i would say you and the article were working together to help wake up the silent majority.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Saying Yes to the Party of No by John Ragan</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Ragan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What concerns me is not our human military, but our drone military. They only need a handful of loyalist to run the drones (air, land, and sea). Even if we still have our guns, they are little defense against the drones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What concerns me is not our human military, but our drone military. They only need a handful of loyalist to run the drones (air, land, and sea). Even if we still have our guns, they are little defense against the drones.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Saying Yes to the Party of No by Reality seeker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reality seeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 16:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can add very little in support of this superbly written blog. Mr. Ringer sums up the situation we all face perfectly. Yes, all in all, Mr. Beck is doing a fine job, with only a few irrigating exceptions. I&#039;m still watching Beck, however. Call me crazy if you like, but I don&#039;t fully trust Beck or Palin---not after what they did in Texas. 

I too believe that a state of emergency is in America&#039;s future within the next ten years. After America can no longer muddle through and it totally collapses, then an emergency will be declared and individual rights will be suspended. Of course, the government won&#039;t admit what they are doing; They will use Orwellian euphemisms to whitewash their intentions. Specious euphemisms such as &quot;protective measures&quot; will be employed to try and pacify a full blown revolt. Personally, I think Mr. Glenn Beck, Mr. Marc Faber, Mr. Peter Schiff, Mr. Jim Rogers, and other alarmists are doing a fine job in warning people about an upcoming collapse; However, I don&#039;t think they even know the level of chaos that is likely to result in the scenarios they&#039;re forecasting. Gerald Celente has the firmest grip on reality of any of the forecasters, but I wonder if even he fully understands how bloody it could get.

Lets look at the facts: Approximately 150 million people own guns in America. If only 1% turn violent and resist the coming state of emergency(aka an oligarchic power grab), then a guerrilla army of one-and-a-half-million warriors right inside America will be born. Remember the D.C. Sniper? Remember the panic that only two men caused? Think! Wake Up! People! You ain&#039;t seen nothing yet.......nothing. 

There will be an army of Joe Stacks, only most won&#039;t commit suicide. Individuals will be even more creative than Mr. Stack.(e.g. Using radio controlled, hobby airplanes(that only cost a few thousand dollars) and converting them into homemade cruise missiles targeted at the banksters, brokesters, and the rest of the cartel that rules from Washington. 

Moreover, &quot;There will be a rifle behind every blade of grass&quot; fighting for its owners individual liberty. In my assessment, the public anger that&#039;s building, if not somehow safely vented, will be highly destructive when hyperinflation, dollar devaluation, and savings &amp; asset confiscation by the government inevitably occurs. There is only one hope: Millions upon millions of Americans will want to protest and throw out the oligarchy using nonviolent/mildly violent means. LET THEM.

My advice to the government cartel: Leave quickly and quietly while you still can. Follow the example of Senator Bayh. All you government vermin better start jumping the ship and hope that the public spares your life when the revolution starts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can add very little in support of this superbly written blog. Mr. Ringer sums up the situation we all face perfectly. Yes, all in all, Mr. Beck is doing a fine job, with only a few irrigating exceptions. I&#8217;m still watching Beck, however. Call me crazy if you like, but I don&#8217;t fully trust Beck or Palin&#8212;not after what they did in Texas. </p>
<p>I too believe that a state of emergency is in America&#8217;s future within the next ten years. After America can no longer muddle through and it totally collapses, then an emergency will be declared and individual rights will be suspended. Of course, the government won&#8217;t admit what they are doing; They will use Orwellian euphemisms to whitewash their intentions. Specious euphemisms such as &#8220;protective measures&#8221; will be employed to try and pacify a full blown revolt. Personally, I think Mr. Glenn Beck, Mr. Marc Faber, Mr. Peter Schiff, Mr. Jim Rogers, and other alarmists are doing a fine job in warning people about an upcoming collapse; However, I don&#8217;t think they even know the level of chaos that is likely to result in the scenarios they&#8217;re forecasting. Gerald Celente has the firmest grip on reality of any of the forecasters, but I wonder if even he fully understands how bloody it could get.</p>
<p>Lets look at the facts: Approximately 150 million people own guns in America. If only 1% turn violent and resist the coming state of emergency(aka an oligarchic power grab), then a guerrilla army of one-and-a-half-million warriors right inside America will be born. Remember the D.C. Sniper? Remember the panic that only two men caused? Think! Wake Up! People! You ain&#8217;t seen nothing yet&#8230;&#8230;.nothing. </p>
<p>There will be an army of Joe Stacks, only most won&#8217;t commit suicide. Individuals will be even more creative than Mr. Stack.(e.g. Using radio controlled, hobby airplanes(that only cost a few thousand dollars) and converting them into homemade cruise missiles targeted at the banksters, brokesters, and the rest of the cartel that rules from Washington. </p>
<p>Moreover, &#8220;There will be a rifle behind every blade of grass&#8221; fighting for its owners individual liberty. In my assessment, the public anger that&#8217;s building, if not somehow safely vented, will be highly destructive when hyperinflation, dollar devaluation, and savings &amp; asset confiscation by the government inevitably occurs. There is only one hope: Millions upon millions of Americans will want to protest and throw out the oligarchy using nonviolent/mildly violent means. LET THEM.</p>
<p>My advice to the government cartel: Leave quickly and quietly while you still can. Follow the example of Senator Bayh. All you government vermin better start jumping the ship and hope that the public spares your life when the revolution starts.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Saying Yes to the Party of No by tsfreese</title>
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		<dc:creator>tsfreese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 15:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with making a stand and being proud of it.
It is time to remember what Fredrick Dunn has said;

&quot;Virtue does not always demand a heavy sacrifice - only the willingness to make it when necessary.&quot;

The worrying about being labled seems to be a further side effect of all the political correctness
that has tarnished proper discussion.

It is manifesting itself in a trend I have noticed in civic groups and in the workplace.  The talk is always about being a team player, until you register 
even minor disagreement.  Then you are instantly considered the other &quot;T&quot; word, troublemaker.

So Yes I say No.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with making a stand and being proud of it.<br />
It is time to remember what Fredrick Dunn has said;</p>
<p>&#8220;Virtue does not always demand a heavy sacrifice &#8211; only the willingness to make it when necessary.&#8221;</p>
<p>The worrying about being labled seems to be a further side effect of all the political correctness<br />
that has tarnished proper discussion.</p>
<p>It is manifesting itself in a trend I have noticed in civic groups and in the workplace.  The talk is always about being a team player, until you register<br />
even minor disagreement.  Then you are instantly considered the other &#8220;T&#8221; word, troublemaker.</p>
<p>So Yes I say No.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Saying Yes to the Party of No by deusimplicitus</title>
		<link>http://blog.robertringer.com/2010/02/22/saying-yes-to-the-party-of-no/comment-page-1/#comment-1639</link>
		<dc:creator>deusimplicitus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;No&quot;..two letters that form the complimentary opposite of going along with any wild and irrational legislation, including proposals and propositions, that&#039;s obviously to any sane thinker not in the best long term benefit of the individual nor the group as a whole.

The current leadership is showing it&#039;s disdain and arrogance as qualified &quot;representatives&quot; for the American people. The current leadership represents a failed Utopian ideal, which more and more Americans are coming to understand. The lies and  manipulation used as tactics are becoming overt to more and more people.
The arrogance and desperation of the liberals, as more Americans are not just saying &quot;no&quot; to the attitude and thug-like tactics, but &quot;HELL NO!&quot;.]\

I do not believe that the U.S. military would go against the American people. The composition of the military personnel is overall very patriotic, as are most of the commanders.

We would all like to think that this growing crisis of confidence in the present administration would not come to this critical juncture.

Dealing with obviously insane and irrational political ideologues willing to push the envelope for their agenda until a crisis is at hand, we must take historical precedent into consideration and be prepared for almost anything.

I still find it historically ironic how hard core socialism and communism was refuted for it&#039;s failings and eventually routed in Russia, and yet still managed to transplant itself into the American political mainstream and attain power. 

How could so many American voters with so much historical precedent and evidence for illustration to guide them, be so foolish to have enabled these blood thirsty lunatics once again after millions upon millions of innocent people died in the last century from the lack of any ground morality in the political philosophy of Karl Marx?  The sad wonder of it all leaves many of us in a state of perplexed incredulity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;No&#8221;..two letters that form the complimentary opposite of going along with any wild and irrational legislation, including proposals and propositions, that&#8217;s obviously to any sane thinker not in the best long term benefit of the individual nor the group as a whole.</p>
<p>The current leadership is showing it&#8217;s disdain and arrogance as qualified &#8220;representatives&#8221; for the American people. The current leadership represents a failed Utopian ideal, which more and more Americans are coming to understand. The lies and  manipulation used as tactics are becoming overt to more and more people.<br />
The arrogance and desperation of the liberals, as more Americans are not just saying &#8220;no&#8221; to the attitude and thug-like tactics, but &#8220;HELL NO!&#8221;.]\</p>
<p>I do not believe that the U.S. military would go against the American people. The composition of the military personnel is overall very patriotic, as are most of the commanders.</p>
<p>We would all like to think that this growing crisis of confidence in the present administration would not come to this critical juncture.</p>
<p>Dealing with obviously insane and irrational political ideologues willing to push the envelope for their agenda until a crisis is at hand, we must take historical precedent into consideration and be prepared for almost anything.</p>
<p>I still find it historically ironic how hard core socialism and communism was refuted for it&#8217;s failings and eventually routed in Russia, and yet still managed to transplant itself into the American political mainstream and attain power. </p>
<p>How could so many American voters with so much historical precedent and evidence for illustration to guide them, be so foolish to have enabled these blood thirsty lunatics once again after millions upon millions of innocent people died in the last century from the lack of any ground morality in the political philosophy of Karl Marx?  The sad wonder of it all leaves many of us in a state of perplexed incredulity.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Making Unemployment Obsolete by Petrus Radii</title>
		<link>http://blog.robertringer.com/2010/02/13/making-unemployment-obsolete/comment-page-1/#comment-1637</link>
		<dc:creator>Petrus Radii</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 22:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mr. Ringer:

I just read your commentary about unemployment insurance and compensation, as well as the minimum wage, on WND.com.  To say I was flabbergasted by such stereotypical, capitalist robber-baron rhetoric would be an exaggeration.  To say I was appalled by such a barbaric, inhuman view of one&#039;s fellow man would be more accurate.

The underlying premises of your viewpoint are quite clear.  You appear to view human beings as nothing more than &quot;capital&quot;.  (At the very least, you fail to take account of the detrimental effects of original sin, and the fact that my free will cannot overcome the free will of an opposing party.)  Therefore, economic enslavement of other human beings by the employer is considered by you to be moral.  For to pay wages which are far below even a subsistence level, and to glut the employment market with foreigners, both illegal and legal, and with women forced to work outside the home due to generally low wages for all and also the impoverishing income tax--all that is economic enslavement and grossly immoral.  Moreover, such practices of &quot;pure capitalism&quot; actually cause unemployment for the person who is supposed to be the support of his family: the man--in particular, white men, who are the most discriminated against in the attempt to find employment.

As an example, I lost my job over a year ago.  Since that time, despite constant efforts, I have been unable to find suitable work.  The very few jobs which would pay a modest $36,000 or more which I could find, were taken by people even more over-qualified than I was.  I live on a very spare budget and cannot even pay all my monthly expenses on less.  That amount of money does *not* allow for unexpected medical, repair, or other expenses, let alone savings.  And I am a single man.

Because I have been trying to make it on too little money for too many years in a declining economy, after a period of unemployment back in 2002-2003, and the consequent additional assumption of debt, the moment I run out of unemployment compensation is the moment I will be forced into bankruptcy and literally lose all of what little I own.

I have worked for small businesses and also been in business for myself.  So I understand the difficulties.  However, the employer is morally obliged to pay a wage sufficient to allow a person to make his way in the world.  Paying $8 or even $12 per hour is not it.  Those are wages appropriate to ten or even twenty years ago, but not to the present day, when the cost of living has doubled or tripled, thanks to the evil activities of the central banksters and their cronies.

Going back to school has been out of the question for all of the fifteen years since that again became an issue for me.  The education establishment has made further schooling prohibitively expensive, with inadequate possibility of return on investment.

I would gladly work at anything for which I am suited by ability.  However, capitalistic exploitation of workers, combined with socialistic taxation and regulation, has made it virtually impossible for me to find adequate employment.

I seriously doubt that you will have the courage to reply to my e-mail, since in your heart you must know that you are wrong, and that the millions of people like me who have been pushed to the edge of ruin by &quot;free trade&quot; and &quot;open borders&quot;, by wage-slavery compounded by tyrannical taxation, are the product of your immoral views.

I hope, never the less, that you will provide me with a *thoughtful*, and not an ideological, response.  I also recommend to you the social encyclicals of Popes Leo XIII and Pius XI, as well as the efforts in the 1950&#039;s and &#039;60&#039;s of the US Catholic Bishops to encourage employers to pay a family wage.  You might learn something to your benefit!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr. Ringer:</p>
<p>I just read your commentary about unemployment insurance and compensation, as well as the minimum wage, on WND.com.  To say I was flabbergasted by such stereotypical, capitalist robber-baron rhetoric would be an exaggeration.  To say I was appalled by such a barbaric, inhuman view of one&#8217;s fellow man would be more accurate.</p>
<p>The underlying premises of your viewpoint are quite clear.  You appear to view human beings as nothing more than &#8220;capital&#8221;.  (At the very least, you fail to take account of the detrimental effects of original sin, and the fact that my free will cannot overcome the free will of an opposing party.)  Therefore, economic enslavement of other human beings by the employer is considered by you to be moral.  For to pay wages which are far below even a subsistence level, and to glut the employment market with foreigners, both illegal and legal, and with women forced to work outside the home due to generally low wages for all and also the impoverishing income tax&#8211;all that is economic enslavement and grossly immoral.  Moreover, such practices of &#8220;pure capitalism&#8221; actually cause unemployment for the person who is supposed to be the support of his family: the man&#8211;in particular, white men, who are the most discriminated against in the attempt to find employment.</p>
<p>As an example, I lost my job over a year ago.  Since that time, despite constant efforts, I have been unable to find suitable work.  The very few jobs which would pay a modest $36,000 or more which I could find, were taken by people even more over-qualified than I was.  I live on a very spare budget and cannot even pay all my monthly expenses on less.  That amount of money does *not* allow for unexpected medical, repair, or other expenses, let alone savings.  And I am a single man.</p>
<p>Because I have been trying to make it on too little money for too many years in a declining economy, after a period of unemployment back in 2002-2003, and the consequent additional assumption of debt, the moment I run out of unemployment compensation is the moment I will be forced into bankruptcy and literally lose all of what little I own.</p>
<p>I have worked for small businesses and also been in business for myself.  So I understand the difficulties.  However, the employer is morally obliged to pay a wage sufficient to allow a person to make his way in the world.  Paying $8 or even $12 per hour is not it.  Those are wages appropriate to ten or even twenty years ago, but not to the present day, when the cost of living has doubled or tripled, thanks to the evil activities of the central banksters and their cronies.</p>
<p>Going back to school has been out of the question for all of the fifteen years since that again became an issue for me.  The education establishment has made further schooling prohibitively expensive, with inadequate possibility of return on investment.</p>
<p>I would gladly work at anything for which I am suited by ability.  However, capitalistic exploitation of workers, combined with socialistic taxation and regulation, has made it virtually impossible for me to find adequate employment.</p>
<p>I seriously doubt that you will have the courage to reply to my e-mail, since in your heart you must know that you are wrong, and that the millions of people like me who have been pushed to the edge of ruin by &#8220;free trade&#8221; and &#8220;open borders&#8221;, by wage-slavery compounded by tyrannical taxation, are the product of your immoral views.</p>
<p>I hope, never the less, that you will provide me with a *thoughtful*, and not an ideological, response.  I also recommend to you the social encyclicals of Popes Leo XIII and Pius XI, as well as the efforts in the 1950&#8217;s and &#8217;60&#8217;s of the US Catholic Bishops to encourage employers to pay a family wage.  You might learn something to your benefit!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Chaos Theory by deusimplicitus</title>
		<link>http://blog.robertringer.com/2010/02/18/chaos-theory/comment-page-1/#comment-1636</link>
		<dc:creator>deusimplicitus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 20:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Order requires maintenance and integrity in the operating system. As a system grows and accumulates in complexity, maintenance of the original status quo becomes more difficult and integrity is compromised.
We are now living in an increasingly complex and overtly compromised social and political system. What was once simple, has become demanding and requiring inordinate amounts of resources to keep the system from completely breaking down. 

Some of those &quot;resources&quot; are currently non existent such as the debt funding being used to prop up the inefficient and wasteful programs being supported and expanded by the government. 

Like anything else, nature and natural physical laws may let the violation of it&#039;s rules slide for a short period of time, however nature is always self correcting and draconian in the end with no appeals and no recourse to the sentence handed out for consistently and chronically violating the hard and firm rules of nature.

Modern human being have tried to set themselves up above the laws of nature. We eat too much and of foods that are not nutritious nor healthy, exercise too little, and in many cases the producers in society are forced to work increasingly long and stressful hours to keep from losing everything they&#039;ve overextended themselves financially and materialistically to so far accumulate. The end result is an ubiquitously very physically and mentally fatigued dysfunctional anxiety ridden population who are too tired to take a step back off their treadmills, and take a long objective look at themselves and their society and what the extrapolated outcome will be given current trends and a failure to acknowledge our shared failings and the failings of those we put in place to represent us.

Chaos is always looming under the surface under a society that is growing tired, disenchanted, resentful, and remaining in denial of it&#039;s present decaying circumstances and how these circumstances were created. 

In order to slow down, stop, and then reverse the failing system, the first step that needs to be taken is for a majority of people to admit that it&#039;s failing and falling into unsustainable chaos. After that admission is made, the next step is to come to an agreement by a majority of citizens on what the options are to restore the system to one of integrity.
From the most educated and most workable options, we then must act. Doing nothing will assure an eventual breakdown and the chaos that will ensue. Those of us who have studied the lessons of history, understand that this potential chaotic period can have long term negative effects on society as a whole, and the individuals who live in this society at the time the chaos initiates and to those fated to live in the future of that society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Order requires maintenance and integrity in the operating system. As a system grows and accumulates in complexity, maintenance of the original status quo becomes more difficult and integrity is compromised.<br />
We are now living in an increasingly complex and overtly compromised social and political system. What was once simple, has become demanding and requiring inordinate amounts of resources to keep the system from completely breaking down. </p>
<p>Some of those &#8220;resources&#8221; are currently non existent such as the debt funding being used to prop up the inefficient and wasteful programs being supported and expanded by the government. </p>
<p>Like anything else, nature and natural physical laws may let the violation of it&#8217;s rules slide for a short period of time, however nature is always self correcting and draconian in the end with no appeals and no recourse to the sentence handed out for consistently and chronically violating the hard and firm rules of nature.</p>
<p>Modern human being have tried to set themselves up above the laws of nature. We eat too much and of foods that are not nutritious nor healthy, exercise too little, and in many cases the producers in society are forced to work increasingly long and stressful hours to keep from losing everything they&#8217;ve overextended themselves financially and materialistically to so far accumulate. The end result is an ubiquitously very physically and mentally fatigued dysfunctional anxiety ridden population who are too tired to take a step back off their treadmills, and take a long objective look at themselves and their society and what the extrapolated outcome will be given current trends and a failure to acknowledge our shared failings and the failings of those we put in place to represent us.</p>
<p>Chaos is always looming under the surface under a society that is growing tired, disenchanted, resentful, and remaining in denial of it&#8217;s present decaying circumstances and how these circumstances were created. </p>
<p>In order to slow down, stop, and then reverse the failing system, the first step that needs to be taken is for a majority of people to admit that it&#8217;s failing and falling into unsustainable chaos. After that admission is made, the next step is to come to an agreement by a majority of citizens on what the options are to restore the system to one of integrity.<br />
From the most educated and most workable options, we then must act. Doing nothing will assure an eventual breakdown and the chaos that will ensue. Those of us who have studied the lessons of history, understand that this potential chaotic period can have long term negative effects on society as a whole, and the individuals who live in this society at the time the chaos initiates and to those fated to live in the future of that society.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Chaos Theory by Reality seeker</title>
		<link>http://blog.robertringer.com/2010/02/18/chaos-theory/comment-page-1/#comment-1635</link>
		<dc:creator>Reality seeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 16:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After watching Glenn Beck, I&#039;d like to add a few comments about Mr. Stack and Mr. Beck. I&#039;d also like to correct a pathetic spelling error that I made( psychopaths/Phychopaths) 

My sister lives in Austin, and contrary to what Mr. Beck and the corporate media are reporting, the word is that Mr. Stack was a very sane man who was well educated, an accomplished musician, a pilot, a software engineer, and a soft spoken and gentle individual. So, call him a criminal if you like, but don&#039;t call him insane like Mr. Beck did over and over again, because it doesn&#039;t harmonize with the facts.

Mr. Beck does a fine job most of the time, but you have to watch him. He knows a little of nothing about Texas politics and constitutionalists like gubernatorial candidate Debra Medina. He&#039;s quite ignorant about the 911 Truthers and the fact that not all 911 Truthers believe that 911 was an inside job plotted by our own government. A large number of Truthers just have reasonable questions about the 911 commission report, the EPA assessment of air quality after the buildings went down, the medical treatment of the first responders who had to breath the toxic air for a prolonged period after the attack, and many other reasonable questions that should be respected: They just want the truth.

If you get all your news and opinions from the corporate media, then take good care to separate the facts from opinions. Often times, Mr. Beck and the corporate media goes contrary to Mr. Ringer&#039;s advice: &quot;Be alert. Be nimble. And don’t confuse the way you wish things to be with the way they actually are.&quot; 

If you listen to Mr. Beck&#039;s radio program, he and his side-kicks/pets often act like a bunch of court jesters/class clowns. &quot;Stu,&quot; Mr. Beck&#039;s executive writer, reminds me of a common know-it-all. In fact, maybe that&#039;s what they should rename the show: Mr. Know-it-All And Friends or, The Laughing Boys.

As the collapse of western civilization becomes more and more chaotic, the laughing&amp;entertainment of Glenn Beck is going to go out of style and be replaced with some serious anger. Already men like Richard Behney, a Republican Senate candidate, spoke to Tea Party supporters about what he would do if the 2010 elections did not produce beneficial results: “I’m cleaning my guns and getting ready for the big show. And I’m serious about that, and I bet you are, too.” 

I can tell you right now that a lot of men and women are getting ready for &quot;the big show,&quot; and they&#039;re not crazy. They understand why we have a second amendment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After watching Glenn Beck, I&#8217;d like to add a few comments about Mr. Stack and Mr. Beck. I&#8217;d also like to correct a pathetic spelling error that I made( psychopaths/Phychopaths) </p>
<p>My sister lives in Austin, and contrary to what Mr. Beck and the corporate media are reporting, the word is that Mr. Stack was a very sane man who was well educated, an accomplished musician, a pilot, a software engineer, and a soft spoken and gentle individual. So, call him a criminal if you like, but don&#8217;t call him insane like Mr. Beck did over and over again, because it doesn&#8217;t harmonize with the facts.</p>
<p>Mr. Beck does a fine job most of the time, but you have to watch him. He knows a little of nothing about Texas politics and constitutionalists like gubernatorial candidate Debra Medina. He&#8217;s quite ignorant about the 911 Truthers and the fact that not all 911 Truthers believe that 911 was an inside job plotted by our own government. A large number of Truthers just have reasonable questions about the 911 commission report, the EPA assessment of air quality after the buildings went down, the medical treatment of the first responders who had to breath the toxic air for a prolonged period after the attack, and many other reasonable questions that should be respected: They just want the truth.</p>
<p>If you get all your news and opinions from the corporate media, then take good care to separate the facts from opinions. Often times, Mr. Beck and the corporate media goes contrary to Mr. Ringer&#8217;s advice: &#8220;Be alert. Be nimble. And don’t confuse the way you wish things to be with the way they actually are.&#8221; </p>
<p>If you listen to Mr. Beck&#8217;s radio program, he and his side-kicks/pets often act like a bunch of court jesters/class clowns. &#8220;Stu,&#8221; Mr. Beck&#8217;s executive writer, reminds me of a common know-it-all. In fact, maybe that&#8217;s what they should rename the show: Mr. Know-it-All And Friends or, The Laughing Boys.</p>
<p>As the collapse of western civilization becomes more and more chaotic, the laughing&amp;entertainment of Glenn Beck is going to go out of style and be replaced with some serious anger. Already men like Richard Behney, a Republican Senate candidate, spoke to Tea Party supporters about what he would do if the 2010 elections did not produce beneficial results: “I’m cleaning my guns and getting ready for the big show. And I’m serious about that, and I bet you are, too.” </p>
<p>I can tell you right now that a lot of men and women are getting ready for &#8220;the big show,&#8221; and they&#8217;re not crazy. They understand why we have a second amendment.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Chaos Theory by Freedom Solutions Group</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freedom Solutions Group</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 23:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent article, Robert!

I believe our very (human) nature and existence on this planet is one of this duality between chaos and order. In fact, I believe it is one of the most basic principles of the universe, that is, the Law of Opposites (and it’s an interesting one to delve into deeper).

This Law of Opposites, found in the chaos and order that you so aptly describe, is one of the most fundamental tenets of America’s freedom and liberty, inspired and transcribed beautifully by America’s Founders in the Declaration of Independence and U.S. Constitution.  (I know you understand this, which is why you have this article listed under your Ideology of Freedom category. ☺)  

For most Americans (and indeed, most humans who don’t suffer ideological minds-- we still consider freedom and liberty as our greatest, if not the greatest, of our core values. Yet, the opposite of freedom and liberty is (personal) responsibility, which seeks to restrain the chaos that complete freedom and liberty would become without it. I like to think of these opposites as a lock and key—meaningless and useless without each other.

It never fails to amaze me how progressives and their ilk, who consider themselves to be so intellectually and morally superior to the unwashed masses, miss out on understanding something so basic to our existence as this. 

I’m of the notion that they’ve thrown the baby out with the bath water. I mean, when you completely discard the idea of this world having an intelligent design caused by the Creator God, in favor of humanistic science and morality, then I suppose you really do struggle to grasp even the most obvious truth. They worship at the altar of their own intelligence and hubris.

But as you know, truth is a funny thing for those who have discarded the omniscient, omnipresent and eternal God in favor of their own limited ideologies and humanistic scientific theories. I suppose that’s why in their world, truth continues to be as constant as nailing Jello® to the wall.

Maybe it’s just me, but in my simple mind, I believe it’s entirely easy to see that God very deliberately created immutable laws that govern the universe, and imposed these laws upon our planet and all of creation that exists upon it. Likewise His intelligent design included human (moral) principles to provide for a higher order of human interaction; that is, once Adam and Eve gave us the human condition known as original sin. 

Regardless of any particular theology of (that) event, it seems clear to me that there is still an intelligent design to the whole of all that is seen and unseen, of all that is known, and all that remains to be discovered.  Yet, this orderly universe is still made up of all the molecules of chaotic energy, that continue to push us forward toward ever greater growth and expansion of the present. For without that growth and expansion, we immediately begin the cycle of decline and decay since there is nothing that remains static in this intelligent design.

And that brings us back full circle. A return to the Law of Opposites; where chaos and order were designed to co-exist to make up the building blocks of the universe. 

In my humble opinion, I see the Law of Opposites as the best explanation of why and how both intelligence and faith are required to see and understand the Truth.

Respectfully,
Karen Barnes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent article, Robert!</p>
<p>I believe our very (human) nature and existence on this planet is one of this duality between chaos and order. In fact, I believe it is one of the most basic principles of the universe, that is, the Law of Opposites (and it’s an interesting one to delve into deeper).</p>
<p>This Law of Opposites, found in the chaos and order that you so aptly describe, is one of the most fundamental tenets of America’s freedom and liberty, inspired and transcribed beautifully by America’s Founders in the Declaration of Independence and U.S. Constitution.  (I know you understand this, which is why you have this article listed under your Ideology of Freedom category. ☺)  </p>
<p>For most Americans (and indeed, most humans who don’t suffer ideological minds&#8211; we still consider freedom and liberty as our greatest, if not the greatest, of our core values. Yet, the opposite of freedom and liberty is (personal) responsibility, which seeks to restrain the chaos that complete freedom and liberty would become without it. I like to think of these opposites as a lock and key—meaningless and useless without each other.</p>
<p>It never fails to amaze me how progressives and their ilk, who consider themselves to be so intellectually and morally superior to the unwashed masses, miss out on understanding something so basic to our existence as this. </p>
<p>I’m of the notion that they’ve thrown the baby out with the bath water. I mean, when you completely discard the idea of this world having an intelligent design caused by the Creator God, in favor of humanistic science and morality, then I suppose you really do struggle to grasp even the most obvious truth. They worship at the altar of their own intelligence and hubris.</p>
<p>But as you know, truth is a funny thing for those who have discarded the omniscient, omnipresent and eternal God in favor of their own limited ideologies and humanistic scientific theories. I suppose that’s why in their world, truth continues to be as constant as nailing Jello® to the wall.</p>
<p>Maybe it’s just me, but in my simple mind, I believe it’s entirely easy to see that God very deliberately created immutable laws that govern the universe, and imposed these laws upon our planet and all of creation that exists upon it. Likewise His intelligent design included human (moral) principles to provide for a higher order of human interaction; that is, once Adam and Eve gave us the human condition known as original sin. </p>
<p>Regardless of any particular theology of (that) event, it seems clear to me that there is still an intelligent design to the whole of all that is seen and unseen, of all that is known, and all that remains to be discovered.  Yet, this orderly universe is still made up of all the molecules of chaotic energy, that continue to push us forward toward ever greater growth and expansion of the present. For without that growth and expansion, we immediately begin the cycle of decline and decay since there is nothing that remains static in this intelligent design.</p>
<p>And that brings us back full circle. A return to the Law of Opposites; where chaos and order were designed to co-exist to make up the building blocks of the universe. </p>
<p>In my humble opinion, I see the Law of Opposites as the best explanation of why and how both intelligence and faith are required to see and understand the Truth.</p>
<p>Respectfully,<br />
Karen Barnes</p>
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		<title>Comment on Chaos Theory by Reality seeker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reality seeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 23:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of Chaos: I read the suicide note/letter of Joe Stack, the man authorities claim flew his plane into the IRS building in Austin Texas, and he seems like a man who couldn&#039;t come to grips with the chaos theory. A man tortured by the unfairness of life and frustrated to the point of violent action; However, the lengthy suicide note/letter was not the ramblings of a crazy man; It was more like a well thought out list/timeline of grievances that Mr. Stack had had against the corrupt elements of big government, big business, and big religion. In fact, the letter was surprisingly coherent, steady, and well thought out for a man who was about to fly an aircraft into a building. What does this tell me? This tells me that there is more violence ahead. As the collapse of western civilization intensifies into an ever greater level of chaos, frustrated individuals---no matter how well educated and sane--- will be compelled to acts of violence. As I said before on this very blog, those whom you never dreamed could hurt a fly will be dripping with blood before this all plays out. You and I ain&#039;t seen nothing yet.......

Mr. Ringer, to his credit, rightly forecasts that &quot;dramatic changes are coming. And, yes, they will be chaotic.&quot; Mr. Ringer wisely advises us to &quot;be alert. Be nimble. And don’t confuse the way you wish things to be with the way they actually are.&quot; 

Otherwise sane people are now right on the verge of doing violent things. As anger replaces hope, violence will only increase. Get ready. America as a whole might muddle through for a few more years, maybe longer, but &quot;dramatic changes&quot; are coming that will give fresh meaning to the word &quot;chaos.&quot;

I leave you with the last written words of Mr. Joe Stack: &quot;I saw it written once that the definition of insanity is repeating the same process over and over and expecting the outcome to suddenly be different. I am finally ready to stop the insanity this insanity. Well, Mr. Big Brother and IRS man, lets try something different: take my pound of flesh.&quot;

RIP Mr. Stack. RIP. I can assure you and your family that you&#039;re far more sane and far less chaotic than the IRS and the Big Government phycopaths who know they&#039;re running the entire country right off a cliff and yet continue to do so anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of Chaos: I read the suicide note/letter of Joe Stack, the man authorities claim flew his plane into the IRS building in Austin Texas, and he seems like a man who couldn&#8217;t come to grips with the chaos theory. A man tortured by the unfairness of life and frustrated to the point of violent action; However, the lengthy suicide note/letter was not the ramblings of a crazy man; It was more like a well thought out list/timeline of grievances that Mr. Stack had had against the corrupt elements of big government, big business, and big religion. In fact, the letter was surprisingly coherent, steady, and well thought out for a man who was about to fly an aircraft into a building. What does this tell me? This tells me that there is more violence ahead. As the collapse of western civilization intensifies into an ever greater level of chaos, frustrated individuals&#8212;no matter how well educated and sane&#8212; will be compelled to acts of violence. As I said before on this very blog, those whom you never dreamed could hurt a fly will be dripping with blood before this all plays out. You and I ain&#8217;t seen nothing yet&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Mr. Ringer, to his credit, rightly forecasts that &#8220;dramatic changes are coming. And, yes, they will be chaotic.&#8221; Mr. Ringer wisely advises us to &#8220;be alert. Be nimble. And don’t confuse the way you wish things to be with the way they actually are.&#8221; </p>
<p>Otherwise sane people are now right on the verge of doing violent things. As anger replaces hope, violence will only increase. Get ready. America as a whole might muddle through for a few more years, maybe longer, but &#8220;dramatic changes&#8221; are coming that will give fresh meaning to the word &#8220;chaos.&#8221;</p>
<p>I leave you with the last written words of Mr. Joe Stack: &#8220;I saw it written once that the definition of insanity is repeating the same process over and over and expecting the outcome to suddenly be different. I am finally ready to stop the insanity this insanity. Well, Mr. Big Brother and IRS man, lets try something different: take my pound of flesh.&#8221;</p>
<p>RIP Mr. Stack. RIP. I can assure you and your family that you&#8217;re far more sane and far less chaotic than the IRS and the Big Government phycopaths who know they&#8217;re running the entire country right off a cliff and yet continue to do so anyway.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Chaos Theory by teddyboy46</title>
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		<dc:creator>teddyboy46</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 20:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>now this is the Robert Ringer I learned so much from . What happened to the Big Picture Ringer? All this ranting and raving about Obama is so Small Picture. Politcs has always been and always shall be nothing but Propganda that has little to do with the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>now this is the Robert Ringer I learned so much from . What happened to the Big Picture Ringer? All this ranting and raving about Obama is so Small Picture. Politcs has always been and always shall be nothing but Propganda that has little to do with the truth.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Making Unemployment Obsolete by Robert Bonter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Bonter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The last year I lived in a home,2005, before moving across town to the apartment complex where I now live, we had blizzard here in the foothills of the Adirondack Mountains, in upstate New York.  My neighbor, whom I really didn&#039;t know because it seems he is out of town on business almost all the town, just simply plowed all the neighborhood driveways, including mine, with not even a &quot;thank you,&quot; much less a bribe for money, required.  In  fact, looking out my window, I didn&#039;t recognize him and thought he was clearing the street and nearby driveways as a village employee, which, as I later found out, was not the case.

I am not saying one should be altruistic to a fault, all the time, but I might ask the question as to whether emergency conditions represent an opportunity  to &quot;profit&quot; from them, or the greater, non-remunerative reward opportunity to demonstrate one&#039;s social and community spirit?  There was a time in this world when nobody would dream of capitalizing upon the hardship of others.  We live in such a harsh, mercenary, unfeeling world now, I think the ramifications of &quot;change&quot; in our country, which have already taken place, indict us as selfish and opportunistic people to a fault. And, minority of one, here, but I would pay nobody a dime, but choose to ride it out, if any wolves  thinly disguised as &quot;guardian angels&quot; ever-again arrive at my door.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last year I lived in a home,2005, before moving across town to the apartment complex where I now live, we had blizzard here in the foothills of the Adirondack Mountains, in upstate New York.  My neighbor, whom I really didn&#8217;t know because it seems he is out of town on business almost all the town, just simply plowed all the neighborhood driveways, including mine, with not even a &#8220;thank you,&#8221; much less a bribe for money, required.  In  fact, looking out my window, I didn&#8217;t recognize him and thought he was clearing the street and nearby driveways as a village employee, which, as I later found out, was not the case.</p>
<p>I am not saying one should be altruistic to a fault, all the time, but I might ask the question as to whether emergency conditions represent an opportunity  to &#8220;profit&#8221; from them, or the greater, non-remunerative reward opportunity to demonstrate one&#8217;s social and community spirit?  There was a time in this world when nobody would dream of capitalizing upon the hardship of others.  We live in such a harsh, mercenary, unfeeling world now, I think the ramifications of &#8220;change&#8221; in our country, which have already taken place, indict us as selfish and opportunistic people to a fault. And, minority of one, here, but I would pay nobody a dime, but choose to ride it out, if any wolves  thinly disguised as &#8220;guardian angels&#8221; ever-again arrive at my door.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Making Unemployment Obsolete by DagnyT</title>
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		<dc:creator>DagnyT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is seriously one of the most beautiful illustrations about our country and its free-market principles. I got tears in my eyes of nostalgia while reading this thinking about what this country used to be like and so wishing it can be like that again.

Thank you, Mr. Ringer, for this lovely and simple reminder!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is seriously one of the most beautiful illustrations about our country and its free-market principles. I got tears in my eyes of nostalgia while reading this thinking about what this country used to be like and so wishing it can be like that again.</p>
<p>Thank you, Mr. Ringer, for this lovely and simple reminder!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Making Unemployment Obsolete by kwallin</title>
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		<dc:creator>kwallin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert,
I seldom find reason to even slightly disagree with any article you write. I find a small disagreement between us for this one. There is a problem with hiring managers that realize the market has a glut of available people, many with great talents, and they can undercut the fair compensation a great deal and many of the folks needing a work position find it necessary to take the absymal wage being offered as they just don&#039;t want to take the unemployment compensation. Problem is those absymal wages will not meet the living requirements of a family. 

Don&#039;t even suggest a wage earner then get into the Information Marketing or copywriting freelancing or eCommerce or franchising as all those are disasters with &quot;gurus&quot; that never really give a full program in their sales, and here is why? They want to keep milking the poor untrained folks that are not entrepreneurial or business owner smart. It is a racket where 99% of the buyers never succeed. 

So most folks are going to have to earn wages, and hiring managers must learn to pay appropriately or those wage earners won&#039;t be buying any more cars, iPods, or Information Marketing products.

I wait for your thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert,<br />
I seldom find reason to even slightly disagree with any article you write. I find a small disagreement between us for this one. There is a problem with hiring managers that realize the market has a glut of available people, many with great talents, and they can undercut the fair compensation a great deal and many of the folks needing a work position find it necessary to take the absymal wage being offered as they just don&#8217;t want to take the unemployment compensation. Problem is those absymal wages will not meet the living requirements of a family. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t even suggest a wage earner then get into the Information Marketing or copywriting freelancing or eCommerce or franchising as all those are disasters with &#8220;gurus&#8221; that never really give a full program in their sales, and here is why? They want to keep milking the poor untrained folks that are not entrepreneurial or business owner smart. It is a racket where 99% of the buyers never succeed. </p>
<p>So most folks are going to have to earn wages, and hiring managers must learn to pay appropriately or those wage earners won&#8217;t be buying any more cars, iPods, or Information Marketing products.</p>
<p>I wait for your thoughts.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Unvarnished Truth by MikeJoyous</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeJoyous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 04:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that the tea party folks have to embrace Rand&#039;s thoughts about the ethics of redistribution. I mean that redistribution is stealing and that theft is wrong. I think that argument has to be made again, and yet again. Ethics trumps economics insofar as the determination of a civilization goes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that the tea party folks have to embrace Rand&#8217;s thoughts about the ethics of redistribution. I mean that redistribution is stealing and that theft is wrong. I think that argument has to be made again, and yet again. Ethics trumps economics insofar as the determination of a civilization goes.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Unvarnished Truth by michalenc</title>
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		<dc:creator>michalenc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with everything you have stated. What can I do to help stop this &quot;soon to happen&quot; tragedy from becoming a true reality. It seems so unbalanced. We have the Law makers, the politicians, and the Media actively praising and encouraging this process to not only continue but to become progressively worse.  They treat the people (God fearing conservatives) whose ideology this country was founded on, as crazies. Granted some of them are taking to radical strategies. However, it seems the less radical practices are not effective. 

On another note-but in a similar vein, what can America do about BHO and his Birth certificate issue? A simple situation, and there seems to be NO clear cut answer or process. Why is this being such a simple issue, being dragged out, and not dealt with? And shouldn&#039;t those who were closest to him, his wife, Pelosi, Biden, Frank and etc. also be tried for covering up the truth?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with everything you have stated. What can I do to help stop this &#8220;soon to happen&#8221; tragedy from becoming a true reality. It seems so unbalanced. We have the Law makers, the politicians, and the Media actively praising and encouraging this process to not only continue but to become progressively worse.  They treat the people (God fearing conservatives) whose ideology this country was founded on, as crazies. Granted some of them are taking to radical strategies. However, it seems the less radical practices are not effective. </p>
<p>On another note-but in a similar vein, what can America do about BHO and his Birth certificate issue? A simple situation, and there seems to be NO clear cut answer or process. Why is this being such a simple issue, being dragged out, and not dealt with? And shouldn&#8217;t those who were closest to him, his wife, Pelosi, Biden, Frank and etc. also be tried for covering up the truth?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Unvarnished Truth by wraf</title>
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		<dc:creator>wraf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 20:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Ringer,
I suggest that if you really want to find out what is coming for the english speakingg people of this world, including the USA UK AUS. you should read the articles at &quot;the trumpet.com&#039;
Very interesting reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Ringer,<br />
I suggest that if you really want to find out what is coming for the english speakingg people of this world, including the USA UK AUS. you should read the articles at &#8220;the trumpet.com&#8217;<br />
Very interesting reading.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Unvarnished Truth by deusimplicitus</title>
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		<dc:creator>deusimplicitus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert, 
In one of your books, you included a witticism from Ashleigh Brilliant that sums up many people&#039;s attitude and perspective today.....
&quot;I have abandoned my search for truth and am now looking for a good fantasy&quot;.

Bad news for those people..truth and hard reality always win over the course of time. Always, no exceptions.

The examples from every page of history, the science, math, and even politics are prolific.

Liberals, progressives, democrats, socialists, communists, etc.,
promise people visions of unattainable Utopia&#039;s and breaking the laws of nature, especially the laws of economics, and of course many people looking for a life with the least possible personal responsibility, foolishly believe and follow the fantasy pulling the rest of us down into their fantasy created made manifest Orwellian dystopia with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert,<br />
In one of your books, you included a witticism from Ashleigh Brilliant that sums up many people&#8217;s attitude and perspective today&#8230;..<br />
&#8220;I have abandoned my search for truth and am now looking for a good fantasy&#8221;.</p>
<p>Bad news for those people..truth and hard reality always win over the course of time. Always, no exceptions.</p>
<p>The examples from every page of history, the science, math, and even politics are prolific.</p>
<p>Liberals, progressives, democrats, socialists, communists, etc.,<br />
promise people visions of unattainable Utopia&#8217;s and breaking the laws of nature, especially the laws of economics, and of course many people looking for a life with the least possible personal responsibility, foolishly believe and follow the fantasy pulling the rest of us down into their fantasy created made manifest Orwellian dystopia with them.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Unvarnished Truth by MeMeMe</title>
		<link>http://blog.robertringer.com/2010/02/08/the-unvarnished-truth-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1619</link>
		<dc:creator>MeMeMe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 02:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to the U.S. Constitution I looked at, under Article 1, section 8 (1), it says,&quot;The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises....

After they have title to the money, it is no longer &quot;taxpayer money&quot;, but government money to do anything legal with it.

I get the danger in what you&#039;re suggesting, but from where I sit, taxation is legal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to the U.S. Constitution I looked at, under Article 1, section 8 (1), it says,&#8221;The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises&#8230;.</p>
<p>After they have title to the money, it is no longer &#8220;taxpayer money&#8221;, but government money to do anything legal with it.</p>
<p>I get the danger in what you&#8217;re suggesting, but from where I sit, taxation is legal.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Unvarnished Truth by arms merchant</title>
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		<dc:creator>arms merchant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not only would going &quot;cold-turkey&quot; on entitlements entail pain and suffering, it could collapse the economy and drive us into a second depression. Not sure how you deal with the inevitable demand-deflation cycle as all that government fiat money is pulled out of the system.

One concept might be to start private accounts for each SS recipient that would be supplemented by a fiat money subsidy that would gradually be phased out. But I don&#039;t see how we could avoid wild instability of the financial markets in a transition to real money. Any ideas?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only would going &#8220;cold-turkey&#8221; on entitlements entail pain and suffering, it could collapse the economy and drive us into a second depression. Not sure how you deal with the inevitable demand-deflation cycle as all that government fiat money is pulled out of the system.</p>
<p>One concept might be to start private accounts for each SS recipient that would be supplemented by a fiat money subsidy that would gradually be phased out. But I don&#8217;t see how we could avoid wild instability of the financial markets in a transition to real money. Any ideas?</p>
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		<title>Comment on On the Development of a Spine by The Total Idiot</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Total Idiot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 14:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Constitutionality of the wavier of taxes for individual groups:

The federalist 57 addresses this situation directily.
&quot;I will add, as a fifth circumstance in the situation of the House of Representatives, restraining them from oppressive measures, that they can make no law which will not have its full operation on themselves and their friends, as well as on the great mass of the society. This has always been deemed one of the strongest bonds by which human policy can connect the rulers and the people together. It creates between them that communion of interests and sympathy of sentiments, of which few governments have furnished examples; but without which every government degenerates into tyranny. If it be asked, what is to restrain the House of Representatives from making legal discriminations in favor of themselves and a particular class of the society? I answer: the genius of the whole system; the nature of just and constitutional laws; and above all, the vigilant and manly spirit which actuates the people of America, a spirit which nourishes freedom, and in return is nourished by it.&quot;

Article 1, sections 9 and 10 both prohibit attainder, and attainder is, by its very definition, looking back through the histories, through the numerous court cases, through the British law it was founded on, any act that extends any benefit, or any penalty to any group.  In the case of benefits, it is a penalty to other groups not receiving such benefits.  It removes a singular and unique property under the law, the property of equality under that rule of law itself.

One might ask, if one were a total idiot, what has happened to that rule of law; the answer would be simple.  It has been bartered and traded for benefits for so long that it has, for many, become meaningless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Constitutionality of the wavier of taxes for individual groups:</p>
<p>The federalist 57 addresses this situation directily.<br />
&#8220;I will add, as a fifth circumstance in the situation of the House of Representatives, restraining them from oppressive measures, that they can make no law which will not have its full operation on themselves and their friends, as well as on the great mass of the society. This has always been deemed one of the strongest bonds by which human policy can connect the rulers and the people together. It creates between them that communion of interests and sympathy of sentiments, of which few governments have furnished examples; but without which every government degenerates into tyranny. If it be asked, what is to restrain the House of Representatives from making legal discriminations in favor of themselves and a particular class of the society? I answer: the genius of the whole system; the nature of just and constitutional laws; and above all, the vigilant and manly spirit which actuates the people of America, a spirit which nourishes freedom, and in return is nourished by it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Article 1, sections 9 and 10 both prohibit attainder, and attainder is, by its very definition, looking back through the histories, through the numerous court cases, through the British law it was founded on, any act that extends any benefit, or any penalty to any group.  In the case of benefits, it is a penalty to other groups not receiving such benefits.  It removes a singular and unique property under the law, the property of equality under that rule of law itself.</p>
<p>One might ask, if one were a total idiot, what has happened to that rule of law; the answer would be simple.  It has been bartered and traded for benefits for so long that it has, for many, become meaningless.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Unvarnished Truth by The Total Idiot</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Total Idiot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 14:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Directly on track.  Compare the operation of the Federal Reserve, as regards debt, to the &quot;Supplementary Convention on the Abolition of Slavery, the Slave Trade, and Institutions and Practices Similar to Slavery&quot; of April 30, 1957.

We are offered as surety for a debt, our times of labor are neither limited nor defined, and our labor is never placed toward the elimination of the principle of the debt involved, nor even toward the interest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Directly on track.  Compare the operation of the Federal Reserve, as regards debt, to the &#8220;Supplementary Convention on the Abolition of Slavery, the Slave Trade, and Institutions and Practices Similar to Slavery&#8221; of April 30, 1957.</p>
<p>We are offered as surety for a debt, our times of labor are neither limited nor defined, and our labor is never placed toward the elimination of the principle of the debt involved, nor even toward the interest.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Unvarnished Truth by Reality seeker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reality seeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 01:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You want the truth? Like Jack said, you can&#039;t handle the truth.

Sarah Palin just endorsed Rick Perry for Texas Governor over Debra Medina. That tells you everything truthful you need to know about Sarah the spineless barracuda. Debra Medina is a genuine Tea Party constitutionalist and a true grass roots candidate that would lead the Tea Party in the right direction---away from the phonies like John The Progressive McCain .. 

Palin sweet-talks, panders, and then co-opts the Tennessee Tea Party right into the Republican Party, and then turns right around and snubs Debra Medina. Palin is after power---period.

Sarah Palin looks sexy with her AR-15, but you know what? The more I hear her talk, the less I trust her not to shoot a true freedom lover in the back. 

Listen people, times are going to get serious, deadly serious. So that means it&#039;s time to get some discernment. Stop listening to the same old rhetoric of the John McCains and the Sarah Palins of this world, and start supporting people like Debra Medina. 

Wake up: Sarah Palin is George Bush&#039;s sister republican. We don&#039;t need a third Bush for President.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You want the truth? Like Jack said, you can&#8217;t handle the truth.</p>
<p>Sarah Palin just endorsed Rick Perry for Texas Governor over Debra Medina. That tells you everything truthful you need to know about Sarah the spineless barracuda. Debra Medina is a genuine Tea Party constitutionalist and a true grass roots candidate that would lead the Tea Party in the right direction&#8212;away from the phonies like John The Progressive McCain .. </p>
<p>Palin sweet-talks, panders, and then co-opts the Tennessee Tea Party right into the Republican Party, and then turns right around and snubs Debra Medina. Palin is after power&#8212;period.</p>
<p>Sarah Palin looks sexy with her AR-15, but you know what? The more I hear her talk, the less I trust her not to shoot a true freedom lover in the back. </p>
<p>Listen people, times are going to get serious, deadly serious. So that means it&#8217;s time to get some discernment. Stop listening to the same old rhetoric of the John McCains and the Sarah Palins of this world, and start supporting people like Debra Medina. </p>
<p>Wake up: Sarah Palin is George Bush&#8217;s sister republican. We don&#8217;t need a third Bush for President.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Unvarnished Truth by asane12</title>
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		<dc:creator>asane12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You wrote, &quot;A few politicians dance around the edges of this issue, but none seem to be willing to speak out on it unequivocally ...&quot; Leaders in America&#039;s Independent Party (AIP) do it every day. For a list of candidates of various political parties who boldly speak the unvarnished truth, see &quot;America&#039;s Candidates - The AIP &#039;Reagan List&#039;&quot; at http://www.aipnews.com/talk/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=7771.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You wrote, &#8220;A few politicians dance around the edges of this issue, but none seem to be willing to speak out on it unequivocally &#8230;&#8221; Leaders in America&#8217;s Independent Party (AIP) do it every day. For a list of candidates of various political parties who boldly speak the unvarnished truth, see &#8220;America&#8217;s Candidates &#8211; The AIP &#8216;Reagan List&#8217;&#8221; at <a href="http://www.aipnews.com/talk/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=7771" rel="nofollow">http://www.aipnews.com/talk/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=7771</a>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Unvarnished Truth by jim</title>
		<link>http://blog.robertringer.com/2010/02/08/the-unvarnished-truth-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1613</link>
		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 21:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just finished rereading &quot;How ... Happiness ... Collapse  ... Western Civilization&quot; this morning.  It&#039;s encouraging to know that at least someone&#039;s thinking and ethics haven&#039;t changed or been corrupted in 27 years.  Too bad so many of our political leaders who claim to be conservative freedom lovers have moved so far to the left.  I&#039;m forwarding your voice of sanity to most everyone I know and many say they have subscribed.  As you said in 1983, educating the folks is our only salvation from dictatorship.  I am worried about what emergency (lie) might be used to suspend elections either this year or in 2012.  The &quot;Saul, Barack and Me&quot; series certainly puts everything into an immediate perspective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just finished rereading &#8220;How &#8230; Happiness &#8230; Collapse  &#8230; Western Civilization&#8221; this morning.  It&#8217;s encouraging to know that at least someone&#8217;s thinking and ethics haven&#8217;t changed or been corrupted in 27 years.  Too bad so many of our political leaders who claim to be conservative freedom lovers have moved so far to the left.  I&#8217;m forwarding your voice of sanity to most everyone I know and many say they have subscribed.  As you said in 1983, educating the folks is our only salvation from dictatorship.  I am worried about what emergency (lie) might be used to suspend elections either this year or in 2012.  The &#8220;Saul, Barack and Me&#8221; series certainly puts everything into an immediate perspective.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Unvarnished Truth by RogerDue</title>
		<link>http://blog.robertringer.com/2010/02/08/the-unvarnished-truth-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1612</link>
		<dc:creator>RogerDue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed. Now I have a suggestion for you. Why don&#039;t you get yourself invited to one of the Tea Party gatherings and start laying out these ideas and try to get others to step up to the plate? How about it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed. Now I have a suggestion for you. Why don&#8217;t you get yourself invited to one of the Tea Party gatherings and start laying out these ideas and try to get others to step up to the plate? How about it?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Unvarnished Truth by Joe</title>
		<link>http://blog.robertringer.com/2010/02/08/the-unvarnished-truth-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1611</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert,

You are correct about just about everything that you have written in this piece.  While I agree with your sentiments when you state: &quot;Put simply, the public has to be taught that the price of unsustainable wealth-redistribution programs is servitude. And, like it or not, that’s the unvarnished truth,&quot; I sadly believe that those who are accustomed to &quot;wealth-distribution programs&quot; are not even aware that they are experiencing &quot;servitude.&quot;  Many of them know nothing else.  For too many Americans, we have become a society where a sense of personal responsibility has been replaced by a sense of entitlement.  I am not sure what the answer to this is, but we are in for a bleak future if someone does not quickly come up with a realistic answer.

Joe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert,</p>
<p>You are correct about just about everything that you have written in this piece.  While I agree with your sentiments when you state: &#8220;Put simply, the public has to be taught that the price of unsustainable wealth-redistribution programs is servitude. And, like it or not, that’s the unvarnished truth,&#8221; I sadly believe that those who are accustomed to &#8220;wealth-distribution programs&#8221; are not even aware that they are experiencing &#8220;servitude.&#8221;  Many of them know nothing else.  For too many Americans, we have become a society where a sense of personal responsibility has been replaced by a sense of entitlement.  I am not sure what the answer to this is, but we are in for a bleak future if someone does not quickly come up with a realistic answer.</p>
<p>Joe</p>
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		<title>Comment on Saul, Barack, and Me, Part VIII by Randall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 07:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On second thought: The above points of my earlier post would be debated endlessly missing the singular issue entirely.
Reading Saul Alinski&#039;s &quot;Rules for Radicals,&quot; requires an understanding of the tenets of individual liberty beforehand. The magnitude of the problem of 100 years of progressive inroads destroying individual liberty on every front has left us with a lack of understanding of who we are and what we about. Reading Alinski, time would be better spent learning to make a good garlic soup.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On second thought: The above points of my earlier post would be debated endlessly missing the singular issue entirely.<br />
Reading Saul Alinski&#8217;s &#8220;Rules for Radicals,&#8221; requires an understanding of the tenets of individual liberty beforehand. The magnitude of the problem of 100 years of progressive inroads destroying individual liberty on every front has left us with a lack of understanding of who we are and what we about. Reading Alinski, time would be better spent learning to make a good garlic soup.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Saul, Barack, and Me, Part VIII by Randall</title>
		<link>http://blog.robertringer.com/2010/02/02/saul-barack-and-me-part-viii/comment-page-1/#comment-1606</link>
		<dc:creator>Randall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 05:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That would be my short list and just warming up before I had my coffee. Ok Here we go:
Resolution 2010 for Congresspersons. Not interested in public service-go home. Pensions repealed. Raises capped.
All UN personal have 72 hours to vacate and leave the country. All possessions sold on ebay.
All treaties and decrees by executive order hereby revoked.
All Unconstitutional treaties or one-sided treaties to the detriment of America are hereby revoked.  
If you have Canadian Geese crapping in your yard its diner time and the menu is roast goose.
Declared 2010 the year of Jubilee. You have it in your possession you own it, houses, cars, everything.
Federal reserve is hereby repealed.
All foreign aid is to cease immediately.
All troops recalled immediately.
All Bank accounts of nations and their nationals deemed unfriendly frozen immediately.
IRS is hereby defunct and records destroyed.
All gun ownership records destroyed.
Treasury notes hereby replace fiat Federal Reserve notes.
National debt to foreign nations and the stock holders of the Federal Reserve abolished. 
All unconstitutional mandates and laws are hereby repealed.
All government agencies in commerce are hereby abolished.
All lobbyists have 30 days to vacate the country.
All congresspersons convicted of any crimes are fired.
All congresspersons having served more that 2 terms are fired.
All Supreme court Justices having made any law which is unconstitutional is fired. 
Any President that apologizes to any foreign country is fired. BO you&#039;re fired.
All gerrymandering and redistricting is cause to be fired. 
Lawyers will no longer control all three branches of the government. You&#039;re fired.
Social security fraud is hereby repealed including Medicare and Medicaid.
Fair Tax HR 25 is hereby instituted on new goods and services only.
Schools are privatized,government is hereby out of the education business.
Money is backed by gold and silver.  
All social welfare programs repealed and privatized.
All Federal government owned lands returned to the States.
All subsidizing by the Federal government repealed.
Nuke any country whose nationals fly planes into our buildings.
Put troops on the borders
English is the national language. If you have to press 1 for any language other than English you&#039;re deported.  
Any lawyer who brings a lawsuit not respecting the right of religion is deported. 
Any Country who does not respect American citizens traveling abroad has their assets  frozen and trade suspended. 
 
That&#039;s enough for one day. I&#039;ll get busy tomorrow right after I&#039;ve had my coffee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That would be my short list and just warming up before I had my coffee. Ok Here we go:<br />
Resolution 2010 for Congresspersons. Not interested in public service-go home. Pensions repealed. Raises capped.<br />
All UN personal have 72 hours to vacate and leave the country. All possessions sold on ebay.<br />
All treaties and decrees by executive order hereby revoked.<br />
All Unconstitutional treaties or one-sided treaties to the detriment of America are hereby revoked.<br />
If you have Canadian Geese crapping in your yard its diner time and the menu is roast goose.<br />
Declared 2010 the year of Jubilee. You have it in your possession you own it, houses, cars, everything.<br />
Federal reserve is hereby repealed.<br />
All foreign aid is to cease immediately.<br />
All troops recalled immediately.<br />
All Bank accounts of nations and their nationals deemed unfriendly frozen immediately.<br />
IRS is hereby defunct and records destroyed.<br />
All gun ownership records destroyed.<br />
Treasury notes hereby replace fiat Federal Reserve notes.<br />
National debt to foreign nations and the stock holders of the Federal Reserve abolished.<br />
All unconstitutional mandates and laws are hereby repealed.<br />
All government agencies in commerce are hereby abolished.<br />
All lobbyists have 30 days to vacate the country.<br />
All congresspersons convicted of any crimes are fired.<br />
All congresspersons having served more that 2 terms are fired.<br />
All Supreme court Justices having made any law which is unconstitutional is fired.<br />
Any President that apologizes to any foreign country is fired. BO you&#8217;re fired.<br />
All gerrymandering and redistricting is cause to be fired.<br />
Lawyers will no longer control all three branches of the government. You&#8217;re fired.<br />
Social security fraud is hereby repealed including Medicare and Medicaid.<br />
Fair Tax HR 25 is hereby instituted on new goods and services only.<br />
Schools are privatized,government is hereby out of the education business.<br />
Money is backed by gold and silver.<br />
All social welfare programs repealed and privatized.<br />
All Federal government owned lands returned to the States.<br />
All subsidizing by the Federal government repealed.<br />
Nuke any country whose nationals fly planes into our buildings.<br />
Put troops on the borders<br />
English is the national language. If you have to press 1 for any language other than English you&#8217;re deported.<br />
Any lawyer who brings a lawsuit not respecting the right of religion is deported.<br />
Any Country who does not respect American citizens traveling abroad has their assets  frozen and trade suspended. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s enough for one day. I&#8217;ll get busy tomorrow right after I&#8217;ve had my coffee.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Saul, Barack, and Me, Part VIII by Reality seeker</title>
		<link>http://blog.robertringer.com/2010/02/02/saul-barack-and-me-part-viii/comment-page-1/#comment-1603</link>
		<dc:creator>Reality seeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 04:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Ringer&#039;s informative analyses was better reading than Alinsky&#039;s book. Mr. Ringer&#039;s point about &quot;ridicule&quot; is well taken. It inspired me to put together a video titled The Glenn Beck Exclusive and post it on YouTube. Glenn Beck is the subject of ridicule. Glenn interviews Jesus Christ, The Grim Reaper, and Lord Humungus.  My role is the armed, Cointellpro agent.

http://www.youtube.com/user/GlennBeckTV


Currently, I&#039;m located in a secure, well equipped, and remote area. And I have time to do some video work/education. Frankly, I&#039;m expecting trouble in 2010. The recent fall in both the stock market and the price of gold was/is no surprise too me. This maybe, just maybe,  will be the start of something bigger. Soon, we may see a crushing blow to the credibility of the Obama administration and the confidence that was mistakenly placed in BHO by the majority of voters. If that happens, and things start to unravel, then look out.

Did you know that Mr. Peter Schiff is running for Senate? I also posted a critique of him on YouTube. I support him, but not all of his ideas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Ringer&#8217;s informative analyses was better reading than Alinsky&#8217;s book. Mr. Ringer&#8217;s point about &#8220;ridicule&#8221; is well taken. It inspired me to put together a video titled The Glenn Beck Exclusive and post it on YouTube. Glenn Beck is the subject of ridicule. Glenn interviews Jesus Christ, The Grim Reaper, and Lord Humungus.  My role is the armed, Cointellpro agent.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/GlennBeckTV" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/user/GlennBeckTV</a></p>
<p>Currently, I&#8217;m located in a secure, well equipped, and remote area. And I have time to do some video work/education. Frankly, I&#8217;m expecting trouble in 2010. The recent fall in both the stock market and the price of gold was/is no surprise too me. This maybe, just maybe,  will be the start of something bigger. Soon, we may see a crushing blow to the credibility of the Obama administration and the confidence that was mistakenly placed in BHO by the majority of voters. If that happens, and things start to unravel, then look out.</p>
<p>Did you know that Mr. Peter Schiff is running for Senate? I also posted a critique of him on YouTube. I support him, but not all of his ideas.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Saul, Barack, and Me, Part VIII by Imperator03</title>
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		<dc:creator>Imperator03</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 10:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a way the fact that BHO and his tactics are wearing thin is good news.  We&#039;re seeing the effects of natural law in action.  Sure most people give BHO a pass and think he&#039;s out of his depth, when really he&#039;s engaging in destructive behaviors.  Alinsky may have had a point when he gave his rules to radicals, but over time those rules have become less and less effective.

People are, for the most part, fair decent human beings.  Alinsky&#039;s radicals might use that humanitarian outlook against people for their own twisted ends, but sooner or later they are known by their actions.  BHO is going to learn this the hard way as more and more people see him not as misguided, but as the out of touch true believer in Marxism that he really is.  Once that happens, it&#039;ll pretty much be over for the Progrssive party in this country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a way the fact that BHO and his tactics are wearing thin is good news.  We&#8217;re seeing the effects of natural law in action.  Sure most people give BHO a pass and think he&#8217;s out of his depth, when really he&#8217;s engaging in destructive behaviors.  Alinsky may have had a point when he gave his rules to radicals, but over time those rules have become less and less effective.</p>
<p>People are, for the most part, fair decent human beings.  Alinsky&#8217;s radicals might use that humanitarian outlook against people for their own twisted ends, but sooner or later they are known by their actions.  BHO is going to learn this the hard way as more and more people see him not as misguided, but as the out of touch true believer in Marxism that he really is.  Once that happens, it&#8217;ll pretty much be over for the Progrssive party in this country.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Saul, Barack, and Me, Part VIII by Randall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 01:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Proposed: The Congressional Reform Act of 2010

Term Limits: 12 years only, one of the possible options below :
A.Two six year Senate terms
B. Six Two year House terms
C. One Six year term
Senate term and three Two Year House 
terms.    
2.  No Tenure / No Pension:     
A congressman collects a salary while in office 
and receives no pay when they are out of 
office.  
3. Congress (past, present &amp; future) 
participates in Social 
Security:  All funds in 
the Congressional retirement fund moves to the 
Social Security system immediately..  
All future funds flow into the Social Security 
system, Congress participates with the 
American people. 
4. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan 
just as all Americans.
5. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay 
raise.  Congressional pay will rise 
by the lower of CPI or 3%.
6. Congress looses their current health care system 
and participates in the same health care 
system as the American 
people.
7. Congress must equally abide in all laws they 
impose on the American 
people.
8. All contracts with past and present congressmen 
are void effective 1/1/11.  
    
The American people did not make this contract 
with congressmen, congressmen made all 
these contracts for themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Proposed: The Congressional Reform Act of 2010</p>
<p>Term Limits: 12 years only, one of the possible options below :<br />
A.Two six year Senate terms<br />
B. Six Two year House terms<br />
C. One Six year term<br />
Senate term and three Two Year House<br />
terms.<br />
2.  No Tenure / No Pension:<br />
A congressman collects a salary while in office<br />
and receives no pay when they are out of<br />
office.<br />
3. Congress (past, present &amp; future)<br />
participates in Social<br />
Security:  All funds in<br />
the Congressional retirement fund moves to the<br />
Social Security system immediately..<br />
All future funds flow into the Social Security<br />
system, Congress participates with the<br />
American people.<br />
4. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan<br />
just as all Americans.<br />
5. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay<br />
raise.  Congressional pay will rise<br />
by the lower of CPI or 3%.<br />
6. Congress looses their current health care system<br />
and participates in the same health care<br />
system as the American<br />
people.<br />
7. Congress must equally abide in all laws they<br />
impose on the American<br />
people.<br />
8. All contracts with past and present congressmen<br />
are void effective 1/1/11.  </p>
<p>The American people did not make this contract<br />
with congressmen, congressmen made all<br />
these contracts for themselves.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Reflections on Haiti by DHill</title>
		<link>http://blog.robertringer.com/2010/01/27/reflections-on-haiti/comment-page-1/#comment-1592</link>
		<dc:creator>DHill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The country of Haiti and it&#039;s status as a 3rd world country has been virtually ignored by everyone including the U.S. despite it&#039;s close proximity. What to do? Aid is good, tents are good but only for the short term. How does this impoverished country pick itself up from it present situation and move forward with hope and a future? The UN had a presence as an international organization is it too much to ask the UN to really help this country with long term sustainable help in establishing the basic needs of a country. With no industry of note, except for sugar cane, garments there is no income from exports to construct the basics of a city or a country. It is in 3 words &quot;A basket case.&quot; A revitalization plan is required to address the very basic fundamentals of building a country not even addressing, education, health systems local and central responsible governments. A trillion $$ over the next 25 years, no doubt, that equates to a lot of sugar cane, garments. But to do the right thing, that is what it will take, unless another earthquake of equal or higher magnitude occurs and the whole island dissappears. In the interim the G20 has to step up to the plate and just do it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The country of Haiti and it&#8217;s status as a 3rd world country has been virtually ignored by everyone including the U.S. despite it&#8217;s close proximity. What to do? Aid is good, tents are good but only for the short term. How does this impoverished country pick itself up from it present situation and move forward with hope and a future? The UN had a presence as an international organization is it too much to ask the UN to really help this country with long term sustainable help in establishing the basic needs of a country. With no industry of note, except for sugar cane, garments there is no income from exports to construct the basics of a city or a country. It is in 3 words &#8220;A basket case.&#8221; A revitalization plan is required to address the very basic fundamentals of building a country not even addressing, education, health systems local and central responsible governments. A trillion $$ over the next 25 years, no doubt, that equates to a lot of sugar cane, garments. But to do the right thing, that is what it will take, unless another earthquake of equal or higher magnitude occurs and the whole island dissappears. In the interim the G20 has to step up to the plate and just do it!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Reflections on Haiti by sheinac</title>
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		<dc:creator>sheinac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How could you discuss the disaster relief in Haiti without even &quot;mentioning&quot; Israel!?!?!?  And I thought you were the voice of Sanity???  Well just in case you have not been following the news, here is the latest.
 http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/135746

IDF Haiti Delegation Heads Home, with One More Heart to Mend
 
by Gil Ronen
Follow Israel news on  and  .
(IsraelNN.com) The IDF&#039;s aid delegation to Haiti concluded its operations Wednesday and is heading home. The delegation, which includes 218 soldiers and 18 civilians, was scheduled to climb on board a plane and fly to Israel Wednesday night. Headed by Brig.-Gen. Shalom Ben-Aryeh, the delegation will take off from Port-au-Prince on a plane chartered by the IDF from El Al and fly directly to Israel.
The plane will land at Ben Gurion Airport at about 8:30 AM. Shortly afterward, at about 9:30, the delegation will be received in a military ceremony, with the participation of senior political and military figures.
A five year old boy from Haiti will be on board as well. The delegation decided to bring him to Israel so that he can undergo heart surgery for a congenital defect.
In order to assist in the efforts to care for survivors, the IDF left behind 30 tons of medical supplies, including bandaging materials, surgical kits, two incubators, community medicine equipment, and large quantities of food and water. In addition it is distributing 1,150 blankets, 30 large tents, 500 mattresses, 200 sleeping bags and kitchen equipment. These supplies will be transferred to the tent cities throughout the country. 
The Israeli delegation received more than 1,110 patients while in Haiti. It carried out 319 operations and 16 births, three of them in Caesarean sections. In addition, rescue crews from the Home Front Command carried out rescues from the rubble of the quake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How could you discuss the disaster relief in Haiti without even &#8220;mentioning&#8221; Israel!?!?!?  And I thought you were the voice of Sanity???  Well just in case you have not been following the news, here is the latest.<br />
 <a href="http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/135746" rel="nofollow">http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/135746</a></p>
<p>IDF Haiti Delegation Heads Home, with One More Heart to Mend</p>
<p>by Gil Ronen<br />
Follow Israel news on  and  .<br />
(IsraelNN.com) The IDF&#8217;s aid delegation to Haiti concluded its operations Wednesday and is heading home. The delegation, which includes 218 soldiers and 18 civilians, was scheduled to climb on board a plane and fly to Israel Wednesday night. Headed by Brig.-Gen. Shalom Ben-Aryeh, the delegation will take off from Port-au-Prince on a plane chartered by the IDF from El Al and fly directly to Israel.<br />
The plane will land at Ben Gurion Airport at about 8:30 AM. Shortly afterward, at about 9:30, the delegation will be received in a military ceremony, with the participation of senior political and military figures.<br />
A five year old boy from Haiti will be on board as well. The delegation decided to bring him to Israel so that he can undergo heart surgery for a congenital defect.<br />
In order to assist in the efforts to care for survivors, the IDF left behind 30 tons of medical supplies, including bandaging materials, surgical kits, two incubators, community medicine equipment, and large quantities of food and water. In addition it is distributing 1,150 blankets, 30 large tents, 500 mattresses, 200 sleeping bags and kitchen equipment. These supplies will be transferred to the tent cities throughout the country.<br />
The Israeli delegation received more than 1,110 patients while in Haiti. It carried out 319 operations and 16 births, three of them in Caesarean sections. In addition, rescue crews from the Home Front Command carried out rescues from the rubble of the quake.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Reflections on Haiti by harris.497@gmail.com</title>
		<link>http://blog.robertringer.com/2010/01/27/reflections-on-haiti/comment-page-1/#comment-1590</link>
		<dc:creator>harris.497@gmail.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mr. Ringer,

I am very keen to provide an input into this exercise because for too long there has been a popular perception that somehow the Haitian nation-building project, launched on January 1, 1804, has failed on account of mismanagement, ineptitude, corruption. 

Buried beneath the rubble of imperial propaganda, out of both Western Europe and the United States, is the evidence which shows that Haiti&#039;s independence was defeated by an aggressive North-Atlantic alliance that could not imagine their world inhabited by a free regime of Africans as representatives of the newly emerging democracy. 

The evidence is striking, especially in the context of France. 

The Haitians fought for their freedom and won, as did the Americans fifty years earlier. The Americans declared their independence and crafted an extraordinary constitution that set out a clear message about the value of humanity and the right to freedom, justice, and liberty. 

In the midst of this brilliant discourse, they chose to retain slavery as the basis of the new nation state. The founding fathers therefore could not see beyond race, as the free state was built on a slavery foundation. 

The water was poisoned in the well; the Americans went back to the battlefield a century later to resolve the fact that slavery and freedom could not comfortably co-exist in the same place. 

The French, also, declared freedom, fraternity and equality as the new philosophies of their national transformation and gave the modern world a tremendous progressive boost by so doing. 

They abolished slavery, but Napoleon Bonaparte could not imagine the republic without slavery and targeted the Haitians for a new, more intense regime of slavery. The British agreed, as did the Dutch, Spanish and Portuguese. 

All were linked in communion over the 500 000 Blacks in Haiti, the most populous and prosperous Caribbean colony. 

As the jewel of the Caribbean, they all wanted to get their hands on it. With a massive slave base, the English, French and Dutch salivated over owning it - and the people. 

The people won a ten-year war, the bloodiest in modern history, and declared their independence. Every other country in the Americas was based on slavery. 

Haiti was freedom, and proceeded to place in its 1805 Independence Constitution that any person of African descent who arrived on its shores would be declared free, and a citizen of the republic. 

For the first time since slavery had commenced, Blacks were the subjects of mass freedom and citizenship in a nation. 

The French refused to recognise Haiti&#039;s independence and declared it an illegal pariah state. The Americans, whom the Haitians looked to in solidarity as their mentor in independence, refused to recognise them, and offered solidarity instead to the French. The British, who were negotiating with the French to obtain the ownership title to Haiti, also moved in solidarity, as did every other nation-state the Western world. 

Haiti was isolated at birth - ostracised and denied access to world trade, finance, and institutional development. It was the most vicious example of national strangulation recorded in modern history. 

The Cubans, at least, have had Russia, China, and Vietnam. The Haitians were alone from inception. The crumbling began. 

Then came 1825; the moment of full truth. The republic is celebrating its 21st anniversary. There is national euphoria in the streets of Port-au-Prince. 

The economy is bankrupt; the political leadership isolated. The cabinet took the decision that the state of affairs could not continue. 

The country had to find a way to be inserted back into the world economy. The French government was invited to a summit. 

Officials arrived and told the Haitian government that they were willing to recognise the country as a sovereign nation but it would have to pay compensation and reparation in exchange. The Haitians, with backs to the wall, agreed to pay the French. 

The French government sent a team of accountants and actuaries into Haiti in order to place a value on all lands, all physical assets, the 500 000 citizens were who formerly enslaved, animals, and all other commercial properties and services. 

The sums amounted to 150 million gold francs. Haiti was told to pay this reparation to France in return for national recognition. 

The Haitian government agreed; payments began immediately. Members of the Cabinet were also valued because they had been enslaved people before independence. 

Thus began the systematic destruction of the Republic of Haiti. The French government bled the nation and rendered it a failed state. It was a merciless exploitation that was designed and guaranteed to collapse the Haitian economy and society. 

Haiti was forced to pay this sum until 1922 when the last instalment was made. During the long 19th century, the payment to France amounted to up to 70 per cent of the country&#039;s foreign exchange earnings. 

Jamaica today pays up to 70 per cent in order to service its international and domestic debt. Haiti was crushed by this debt payment. It descended into financial and social chaos. 

The republic did not stand a chance. France was enriched and it took pleasure from the fact that having been defeated by Haitians on the battlefield, it had won on the field of finance. In the years when the coffee crops failed, or the sugar yield was down, the Haitian government borrowed on the French money market at double the going interest rate in order to repay the French government. 

When the Americans invaded the country in the early 20th century, one of the reasons offered was to assist the French in collecting its reparations. 

The collapse of the Haitian nation resides at the feet of France and America, especially. These two nations betrayed, failed, and destroyed the dream that was Haiti; crushed to dust in an effort to destroy the flower of freedom and the seed of justice. 

Haiti did not fail. It was destroyed by two of the most powerful nations on earth, both of which continue to have a primary interest in its current condition. 

The sudden quake has come in the aftermath of summers of hate. In many ways the quake has been less destructive than the hate. 

Human life was snuffed out by the quake, while the hate has been a long and inhumane suffocation - a crime against humanity. 

During the 2001 UN Conference on Race in Durban, South Africa, strong representation was made to the French government to repay the 150 million francs. 

The value of this amount was estimated by financial actuaries as US$21 billion. This sum of capital could rebuild Haiti and place it in a position to re-engage the modern world. It was illegally extracted from the Haitian people and should be repaid. 

It is stolen wealth. In so doing, France could discharge its moral obligation to the Haitian people. 

For a nation that prides itself in the celebration of modern diplomacy, France, in order to exist with the moral authority of this diplomacy in this post-modern world, should do the just and legal thing. 

Such an act at the outset of this century would open the door for a sophisticated interface of past and present, and set the Haitian nation free at last. 

God bless America for everything she has done to help Haiti and other people in need.  May she continue to have the wherewithal to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr. Ringer,</p>
<p>I am very keen to provide an input into this exercise because for too long there has been a popular perception that somehow the Haitian nation-building project, launched on January 1, 1804, has failed on account of mismanagement, ineptitude, corruption. </p>
<p>Buried beneath the rubble of imperial propaganda, out of both Western Europe and the United States, is the evidence which shows that Haiti&#8217;s independence was defeated by an aggressive North-Atlantic alliance that could not imagine their world inhabited by a free regime of Africans as representatives of the newly emerging democracy. </p>
<p>The evidence is striking, especially in the context of France. </p>
<p>The Haitians fought for their freedom and won, as did the Americans fifty years earlier. The Americans declared their independence and crafted an extraordinary constitution that set out a clear message about the value of humanity and the right to freedom, justice, and liberty. </p>
<p>In the midst of this brilliant discourse, they chose to retain slavery as the basis of the new nation state. The founding fathers therefore could not see beyond race, as the free state was built on a slavery foundation. </p>
<p>The water was poisoned in the well; the Americans went back to the battlefield a century later to resolve the fact that slavery and freedom could not comfortably co-exist in the same place. </p>
<p>The French, also, declared freedom, fraternity and equality as the new philosophies of their national transformation and gave the modern world a tremendous progressive boost by so doing. </p>
<p>They abolished slavery, but Napoleon Bonaparte could not imagine the republic without slavery and targeted the Haitians for a new, more intense regime of slavery. The British agreed, as did the Dutch, Spanish and Portuguese. </p>
<p>All were linked in communion over the 500 000 Blacks in Haiti, the most populous and prosperous Caribbean colony. </p>
<p>As the jewel of the Caribbean, they all wanted to get their hands on it. With a massive slave base, the English, French and Dutch salivated over owning it &#8211; and the people. </p>
<p>The people won a ten-year war, the bloodiest in modern history, and declared their independence. Every other country in the Americas was based on slavery. </p>
<p>Haiti was freedom, and proceeded to place in its 1805 Independence Constitution that any person of African descent who arrived on its shores would be declared free, and a citizen of the republic. </p>
<p>For the first time since slavery had commenced, Blacks were the subjects of mass freedom and citizenship in a nation. </p>
<p>The French refused to recognise Haiti&#8217;s independence and declared it an illegal pariah state. The Americans, whom the Haitians looked to in solidarity as their mentor in independence, refused to recognise them, and offered solidarity instead to the French. The British, who were negotiating with the French to obtain the ownership title to Haiti, also moved in solidarity, as did every other nation-state the Western world. </p>
<p>Haiti was isolated at birth &#8211; ostracised and denied access to world trade, finance, and institutional development. It was the most vicious example of national strangulation recorded in modern history. </p>
<p>The Cubans, at least, have had Russia, China, and Vietnam. The Haitians were alone from inception. The crumbling began. </p>
<p>Then came 1825; the moment of full truth. The republic is celebrating its 21st anniversary. There is national euphoria in the streets of Port-au-Prince. </p>
<p>The economy is bankrupt; the political leadership isolated. The cabinet took the decision that the state of affairs could not continue. </p>
<p>The country had to find a way to be inserted back into the world economy. The French government was invited to a summit. </p>
<p>Officials arrived and told the Haitian government that they were willing to recognise the country as a sovereign nation but it would have to pay compensation and reparation in exchange. The Haitians, with backs to the wall, agreed to pay the French. </p>
<p>The French government sent a team of accountants and actuaries into Haiti in order to place a value on all lands, all physical assets, the 500 000 citizens were who formerly enslaved, animals, and all other commercial properties and services. </p>
<p>The sums amounted to 150 million gold francs. Haiti was told to pay this reparation to France in return for national recognition. </p>
<p>The Haitian government agreed; payments began immediately. Members of the Cabinet were also valued because they had been enslaved people before independence. </p>
<p>Thus began the systematic destruction of the Republic of Haiti. The French government bled the nation and rendered it a failed state. It was a merciless exploitation that was designed and guaranteed to collapse the Haitian economy and society. </p>
<p>Haiti was forced to pay this sum until 1922 when the last instalment was made. During the long 19th century, the payment to France amounted to up to 70 per cent of the country&#8217;s foreign exchange earnings. </p>
<p>Jamaica today pays up to 70 per cent in order to service its international and domestic debt. Haiti was crushed by this debt payment. It descended into financial and social chaos. </p>
<p>The republic did not stand a chance. France was enriched and it took pleasure from the fact that having been defeated by Haitians on the battlefield, it had won on the field of finance. In the years when the coffee crops failed, or the sugar yield was down, the Haitian government borrowed on the French money market at double the going interest rate in order to repay the French government. </p>
<p>When the Americans invaded the country in the early 20th century, one of the reasons offered was to assist the French in collecting its reparations. </p>
<p>The collapse of the Haitian nation resides at the feet of France and America, especially. These two nations betrayed, failed, and destroyed the dream that was Haiti; crushed to dust in an effort to destroy the flower of freedom and the seed of justice. </p>
<p>Haiti did not fail. It was destroyed by two of the most powerful nations on earth, both of which continue to have a primary interest in its current condition. </p>
<p>The sudden quake has come in the aftermath of summers of hate. In many ways the quake has been less destructive than the hate. </p>
<p>Human life was snuffed out by the quake, while the hate has been a long and inhumane suffocation &#8211; a crime against humanity. </p>
<p>During the 2001 UN Conference on Race in Durban, South Africa, strong representation was made to the French government to repay the 150 million francs. </p>
<p>The value of this amount was estimated by financial actuaries as US$21 billion. This sum of capital could rebuild Haiti and place it in a position to re-engage the modern world. It was illegally extracted from the Haitian people and should be repaid. </p>
<p>It is stolen wealth. In so doing, France could discharge its moral obligation to the Haitian people. </p>
<p>For a nation that prides itself in the celebration of modern diplomacy, France, in order to exist with the moral authority of this diplomacy in this post-modern world, should do the just and legal thing. </p>
<p>Such an act at the outset of this century would open the door for a sophisticated interface of past and present, and set the Haitian nation free at last. </p>
<p>God bless America for everything she has done to help Haiti and other people in need.  May she continue to have the wherewithal to do so.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Reflections on Haiti by Reality seeker</title>
		<link>http://blog.robertringer.com/2010/01/27/reflections-on-haiti/comment-page-1/#comment-1589</link>
		<dc:creator>Reality seeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 16:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to add that according to The United Nations Children&#039;s Fund, approximately 25,000 children under the age of five die every
day from poverty related issues. The man made global-lack of basic food, water, shelter, clothing, medical supplies, and hygienic knowledge allow the Grim Reaper to never have to worry about standing
in the unemployment line.

Frankly, the numbers in Haiti are insignificant when compared to the global death toll. Haiti has been hyped in order increase news ratings, charitable contributions, feel-goodism and to help the
government take the people&#039;s minds off the very significant man made catastrophe that is just ahead. What am I talking about? I&#039;m talking about the man made natural disaster called hyperinflation that&#039;s
caused by socialism and corrupt banking.......that&#039;s what.

Listen! I hear a warning of what is ahead from a voice of long ago: &quot;I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties
than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the
banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to
whom it properly belongs.&quot; ........  Thomas Jefferson

The people have failed to heed the above warning. The people have followed the bleeding-heart-do-gooders in their global crusades to spread socialism. Meanwhile, back in America, the oligarchy &amp; banks have become &quot;more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.&quot;

Mr. Grim Reaper is going to have a field day when the cost of the basic necessities sky rocket due to hyperinflation. And I&#039;ve news for you: America will be part of the reaping.........I remember during
Jimmy Carter&#039;s term as president how some old people were surviving on canned cat food. Do you think that&#039;s bad? Well, that&#039;s nothing when compared to what I expect to see when the system collapses right on top of the heads of all the ignorant baby-boomers----- whom think that they can retire at 65----cough--- and live to 95 on their life savings.

My advice, forget Haiti and let the dead bury their dead. Start worrying about the future of America. And if you think my opinion jaded, then you&#039;re right. The facts have jaded me, and reality, not
idealism, is what I base my opinions on. Do you want to save millions of lives?  Then save America first.

The people of Haiti, like many nations and peoples, have chosen to live on their knees before corrupt leadership. People reap what they sow. I say, it&#039;s better to die on your feet, than live on your knees. I agree with George Washington. Who do you agree with?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to add that according to The United Nations Children&#8217;s Fund, approximately 25,000 children under the age of five die every<br />
day from poverty related issues. The man made global-lack of basic food, water, shelter, clothing, medical supplies, and hygienic knowledge allow the Grim Reaper to never have to worry about standing<br />
in the unemployment line.</p>
<p>Frankly, the numbers in Haiti are insignificant when compared to the global death toll. Haiti has been hyped in order increase news ratings, charitable contributions, feel-goodism and to help the<br />
government take the people&#8217;s minds off the very significant man made catastrophe that is just ahead. What am I talking about? I&#8217;m talking about the man made natural disaster called hyperinflation that&#8217;s<br />
caused by socialism and corrupt banking&#8230;&#8230;.that&#8217;s what.</p>
<p>Listen! I hear a warning of what is ahead from a voice of long ago: &#8220;I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties<br />
than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the<br />
banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to<br />
whom it properly belongs.&#8221; &#8230;&#8230;..  Thomas Jefferson</p>
<p>The people have failed to heed the above warning. The people have followed the bleeding-heart-do-gooders in their global crusades to spread socialism. Meanwhile, back in America, the oligarchy &amp; banks have become &#8220;more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.&#8221;</p>
<p>Mr. Grim Reaper is going to have a field day when the cost of the basic necessities sky rocket due to hyperinflation. And I&#8217;ve news for you: America will be part of the reaping&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;I remember during<br />
Jimmy Carter&#8217;s term as president how some old people were surviving on canned cat food. Do you think that&#8217;s bad? Well, that&#8217;s nothing when compared to what I expect to see when the system collapses right on top of the heads of all the ignorant baby-boomers&#8212;&#8211; whom think that they can retire at 65&#8212;-cough&#8212; and live to 95 on their life savings.</p>
<p>My advice, forget Haiti and let the dead bury their dead. Start worrying about the future of America. And if you think my opinion jaded, then you&#8217;re right. The facts have jaded me, and reality, not<br />
idealism, is what I base my opinions on. Do you want to save millions of lives?  Then save America first.</p>
<p>The people of Haiti, like many nations and peoples, have chosen to live on their knees before corrupt leadership. People reap what they sow. I say, it&#8217;s better to die on your feet, than live on your knees. I agree with George Washington. Who do you agree with?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Reflections on Haiti by Robert Bonter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Bonter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 07:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another good case for a nation building enough wealth to become self-sufficient is that, in times of crisis, it can take care of itself. I mean, which nations aided us as we reconstucted our South after the Civil War.  Which nations aided us after Pearl Harbor or 9/11?  Of course, as the most powerful industrial machine in the world we always finance our own reconstruction programs. 

Interestingly, we bombed parts of Europe off the map, in WW2, then, apologetically, funded the reconstruction.  That is insanity, and that goes for our bailing out of our French &quot;allies,&quot; who are better at hypocritically resenting us, than anything they exchange for our help.  Why the hell do we have to reconstruct, with taxpayer dollars, the devastation our enemies brought upon themselves in their effort to devastate us? Oh well, democracy at work at home and on an international scale is a big joke on people not pulling strings (other people&#039;s purse strings) in The Beltway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another good case for a nation building enough wealth to become self-sufficient is that, in times of crisis, it can take care of itself. I mean, which nations aided us as we reconstucted our South after the Civil War.  Which nations aided us after Pearl Harbor or 9/11?  Of course, as the most powerful industrial machine in the world we always finance our own reconstruction programs. </p>
<p>Interestingly, we bombed parts of Europe off the map, in WW2, then, apologetically, funded the reconstruction.  That is insanity, and that goes for our bailing out of our French &#8220;allies,&#8221; who are better at hypocritically resenting us, than anything they exchange for our help.  Why the hell do we have to reconstruct, with taxpayer dollars, the devastation our enemies brought upon themselves in their effort to devastate us? Oh well, democracy at work at home and on an international scale is a big joke on people not pulling strings (other people&#8217;s purse strings) in The Beltway.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Reflections on Haiti by deusimplicitus</title>
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		<dc:creator>deusimplicitus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 06:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who is going to bail out and send aid to the U.S. when critical mass is reached in the national debt of easily over 12 trillion dollars? It&#039;s much higher if real world accounting is used.
 
The United States is insolvent on a massive scale.
Can we continue to afford to be the self appointed saviors of the entire world and all the world&#039;s ongoing conflicts and natural disasters?

In the long term picture, the answer is no, and the long term picture is not even that long term at this point.

As the population of the planet grows, so will the death tolls from natural disasters of this nature. 

Compassion is a wonderfully humane emotion to exhibit, however it&#039;s difficult to be compassionate when there is a never ending need for that compassion worldwide and we&#039;ve already &quot;compassioned&quot; ourselves into our own pending massive man made economic disaster of epic proportions from the legislative compassion forcing millions of Americans to pay living expenses for their fellow Americans and then all the international compassion the United States has engaged in since we became the world&#039;s &quot;go to guy&quot; in a crisis.

A nation has to survive itself and be truly prosperous FIRST ,in order to be generous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who is going to bail out and send aid to the U.S. when critical mass is reached in the national debt of easily over 12 trillion dollars? It&#8217;s much higher if real world accounting is used.</p>
<p>The United States is insolvent on a massive scale.<br />
Can we continue to afford to be the self appointed saviors of the entire world and all the world&#8217;s ongoing conflicts and natural disasters?</p>
<p>In the long term picture, the answer is no, and the long term picture is not even that long term at this point.</p>
<p>As the population of the planet grows, so will the death tolls from natural disasters of this nature. </p>
<p>Compassion is a wonderfully humane emotion to exhibit, however it&#8217;s difficult to be compassionate when there is a never ending need for that compassion worldwide and we&#8217;ve already &#8220;compassioned&#8221; ourselves into our own pending massive man made economic disaster of epic proportions from the legislative compassion forcing millions of Americans to pay living expenses for their fellow Americans and then all the international compassion the United States has engaged in since we became the world&#8217;s &#8220;go to guy&#8221; in a crisis.</p>
<p>A nation has to survive itself and be truly prosperous FIRST ,in order to be generous.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Reflections on Haiti by Tex Norton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tex Norton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 03:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert, you confuse &quot;a helping hand&quot; vs &quot;a hand-out.&quot; We, the USA, have given over $3 Billion to Haiti with out a single &quot;thanks.&quot; Well, not exactly: I&#039;m sure Papa Doc and Baby Doc are appreciative, but the Haitians themselves don&#039;t even know we did anything to help. This is the result of procreation without an ounce of responsibility for one&#039;s actions. The buildings were built by the French. Where are they in this effort to &quot;help?&quot; We&#039;re all sorry for the human suffering, but there IS a limit. I&#039;m well past my limit of this crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert, you confuse &#8220;a helping hand&#8221; vs &#8220;a hand-out.&#8221; We, the USA, have given over $3 Billion to Haiti with out a single &#8220;thanks.&#8221; Well, not exactly: I&#8217;m sure Papa Doc and Baby Doc are appreciative, but the Haitians themselves don&#8217;t even know we did anything to help. This is the result of procreation without an ounce of responsibility for one&#8217;s actions. The buildings were built by the French. Where are they in this effort to &#8220;help?&#8221; We&#8217;re all sorry for the human suffering, but there IS a limit. I&#8217;m well past my limit of this crap.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Reflections on Haiti by msells</title>
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		<dc:creator>msells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 00:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interestingly enough, on the BBC news this evening, they mentioned that the income gap between rich and poor was least in Sweden - a heavily &quot;socialist&quot; state. The news article inferred that the populus was most contented there.
I think that when Governments are either a blatent kleptocracy, such as Haiti, or become parasitical and bureaucratic, as in most of europe and in the UK, as in most of Europe and USA, the wealth creation engines become stifled and a country&#039;s ability to deal with natural disasters suffers because nobody will take any initiative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly enough, on the BBC news this evening, they mentioned that the income gap between rich and poor was least in Sweden &#8211; a heavily &#8220;socialist&#8221; state. The news article inferred that the populus was most contented there.<br />
I think that when Governments are either a blatent kleptocracy, such as Haiti, or become parasitical and bureaucratic, as in most of europe and in the UK, as in most of Europe and USA, the wealth creation engines become stifled and a country&#8217;s ability to deal with natural disasters suffers because nobody will take any initiative.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Reflections on Haiti by taxonoman@commspeed.net</title>
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		<dc:creator>taxonoman@commspeed.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 00:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a couple of items:

Haiti is so poor partly because they have historically refused any help from the &quot;imperialist&quot; U.S. because of their dictatorial leadership. Isn&#039;t it interesting that so many of them have attempted over the years to float to Florida?

I find it fascinating the countries who are missing in the battle to get aid to Haiti; namely a couple of wealthy Middle East countries. It&#039;s all part of the Muslim hatred for the West and it&#039;s despicable.

As an observation, it seems to me the very best, most cost-effective thing we could do first for the Haitians is to build them a few roads. Hey, the heavy equipment is going to be there anyway. How many stories have we read and heard about the long, treacherous trip to an open seaport, or even to an airstrip in Dominican Republic? Get out the road graders, boys!

Thanks, Robert. Love your articles!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a couple of items:</p>
<p>Haiti is so poor partly because they have historically refused any help from the &#8220;imperialist&#8221; U.S. because of their dictatorial leadership. Isn&#8217;t it interesting that so many of them have attempted over the years to float to Florida?</p>
<p>I find it fascinating the countries who are missing in the battle to get aid to Haiti; namely a couple of wealthy Middle East countries. It&#8217;s all part of the Muslim hatred for the West and it&#8217;s despicable.</p>
<p>As an observation, it seems to me the very best, most cost-effective thing we could do first for the Haitians is to build them a few roads. Hey, the heavy equipment is going to be there anyway. How many stories have we read and heard about the long, treacherous trip to an open seaport, or even to an airstrip in Dominican Republic? Get out the road graders, boys!</p>
<p>Thanks, Robert. Love your articles!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Reflections on Haiti by SaiKitLo</title>
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		<dc:creator>SaiKitLo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 23:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The world will continue to hate U.S. even if it is perfect. The power mongers hate her. 

A logical person like you won&#039;t understand. 

Why would people hate Jesus and put Him on the cross?

But CIA and folks like them are everywhere in U.S. now, they are traitors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The world will continue to hate U.S. even if it is perfect. The power mongers hate her. </p>
<p>A logical person like you won&#8217;t understand. </p>
<p>Why would people hate Jesus and put Him on the cross?</p>
<p>But CIA and folks like them are everywhere in U.S. now, they are traitors.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Reflections on Haiti by Eva Loken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eva Loken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 23:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So true.. In Norway there is a song about how we dreamt about america.. and then the &quot;heaven&quot; fell, and nothing falls as deep as a hero disowned.. 
Look at all the socialistic countries in Europe that were saved by the American soldiers, then rebuilt by American help, how they &quot;dislike&quot; America.. 
Haiti will be the same,  they will resent that AMericancs have adopted their children, fed them and helped them</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So true.. In Norway there is a song about how we dreamt about america.. and then the &#8220;heaven&#8221; fell, and nothing falls as deep as a hero disowned..<br />
Look at all the socialistic countries in Europe that were saved by the American soldiers, then rebuilt by American help, how they &#8220;dislike&#8221; America..<br />
Haiti will be the same,  they will resent that AMericancs have adopted their children, fed them and helped them</p>
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		<title>Comment on Will BHO’s Secret Weapon Emerge? by deusimplicitus</title>
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		<dc:creator>deusimplicitus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 16:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of us know enough not to listen to what Obama says. We know what we does now is all for damage control and what he did prior tells the story of what his real intentions and goals are for his administration. The same for his co-conspirator wife. The same as well for the entire democratic party. Is there any wonder why the democratic party is so aligned with Hollywood and the acting and entertainment community? Actors and actresses, all of them.  The democrats can&#039;t help themselves in hammering through their agenda once they achieve power as they become drunk with power and go out of &quot;character&quot; when inebriated with power and hubris as they babble with that dazed and delusional look as the camera&#039;s and media close in true Norma Desmond fashion.....
&quot;We&#039;re ready for our close ups Mr. DeMille!&quot; 

This knee jerk dropping of the Democrat&#039;s Trojan Horse masks, exposes the democratic party&#039;s phony facade and their real underlying long term agenda...which is hard and draconian dystopian socialism and the destruction of individual autonomy as individuality and personal responsibility were once the cornerstones of traditional American principles and the philosophical nemesis of everything the socialist democrats stand for and believe in. 

I believe that when the writing on the wall becomes clear as the fanatical agenda of Obama, Pelosi, Reid, etc. is recognized by more and more Americans, the other at risk democratic rats will start to distance themselves from the current administration to salvage save their own miserable skins and at least try to preserve some phony credibility for the socialist democratic party knowing that the Republicans will shoot themselves in the foot again after they regain power in the upcoming elections.

The American people want a return to long term prosperity principles and long term responsible decision making by our politicians, however we no longer believe that there are any U.S. politicians at present, who have the vision and integrity to do what is necessary to put the United States back on sound and economic footing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of us know enough not to listen to what Obama says. We know what we does now is all for damage control and what he did prior tells the story of what his real intentions and goals are for his administration. The same for his co-conspirator wife. The same as well for the entire democratic party. Is there any wonder why the democratic party is so aligned with Hollywood and the acting and entertainment community? Actors and actresses, all of them.  The democrats can&#8217;t help themselves in hammering through their agenda once they achieve power as they become drunk with power and go out of &#8220;character&#8221; when inebriated with power and hubris as they babble with that dazed and delusional look as the camera&#8217;s and media close in true Norma Desmond fashion&#8230;..<br />
&#8220;We&#8217;re ready for our close ups Mr. DeMille!&#8221; </p>
<p>This knee jerk dropping of the Democrat&#8217;s Trojan Horse masks, exposes the democratic party&#8217;s phony facade and their real underlying long term agenda&#8230;which is hard and draconian dystopian socialism and the destruction of individual autonomy as individuality and personal responsibility were once the cornerstones of traditional American principles and the philosophical nemesis of everything the socialist democrats stand for and believe in. </p>
<p>I believe that when the writing on the wall becomes clear as the fanatical agenda of Obama, Pelosi, Reid, etc. is recognized by more and more Americans, the other at risk democratic rats will start to distance themselves from the current administration to salvage save their own miserable skins and at least try to preserve some phony credibility for the socialist democratic party knowing that the Republicans will shoot themselves in the foot again after they regain power in the upcoming elections.</p>
<p>The American people want a return to long term prosperity principles and long term responsible decision making by our politicians, however we no longer believe that there are any U.S. politicians at present, who have the vision and integrity to do what is necessary to put the United States back on sound and economic footing.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Will BHO’s Secret Weapon Emerge? by Reality seeker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reality seeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 23:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phenomenally well written article. Brilliant analysis from start to finish.  Insightful: It&#039;s worth reading and rereading. I agree 100% with this article. 

Mr. Ringer is so right on. Yes, something must be done to boost BHO&#039;s rating. BHO approval rating has dropped faster than any president in the last 100 years---&quot;Gasp!&quot;---even faster than Jimmy Carter&#039;s. When BHO&#039;s &quot;secret weapon&quot; fails---choke--- then anything is possible. BHO may take us to war, intentionally crash the economy, and/or &quot;declare a state of emergency.&quot;

Get ready, stay sharp, because this situation is going to get ugly. Obama &quot;IS&quot; a &quot;true believer.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phenomenally well written article. Brilliant analysis from start to finish.  Insightful: It&#8217;s worth reading and rereading. I agree 100% with this article. </p>
<p>Mr. Ringer is so right on. Yes, something must be done to boost BHO&#8217;s rating. BHO approval rating has dropped faster than any president in the last 100 years&#8212;&#8221;Gasp!&#8221;&#8212;even faster than Jimmy Carter&#8217;s. When BHO&#8217;s &#8220;secret weapon&#8221; fails&#8212;choke&#8212; then anything is possible. BHO may take us to war, intentionally crash the economy, and/or &#8220;declare a state of emergency.&#8221;</p>
<p>Get ready, stay sharp, because this situation is going to get ugly. Obama &#8220;IS&#8221; a &#8220;true believer.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Will BHO’s Secret Weapon Emerge? by pastorole</title>
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		<dc:creator>pastorole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 22:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a nagging question that doesn&#039;t seem to be asked anymore.  &quot;Where Is The Proof Of American Citizenship&quot;?  I was under the impression that it was to come before a Court of Law.  Has BHO been able to buy off those who know the real answer?  If is is an American citizen, he should be tried for Treason In Office!!!  No one else has done as much in so short a period of time to dismantle this great country that myself and many of my brothers and sisters fought for!!!

An angry 75 year old pastor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a nagging question that doesn&#8217;t seem to be asked anymore.  &#8220;Where Is The Proof Of American Citizenship&#8221;?  I was under the impression that it was to come before a Court of Law.  Has BHO been able to buy off those who know the real answer?  If is is an American citizen, he should be tried for Treason In Office!!!  No one else has done as much in so short a period of time to dismantle this great country that myself and many of my brothers and sisters fought for!!!</p>
<p>An angry 75 year old pastor</p>
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		<title>Comment on Will BHO’s Secret Weapon Emerge? by SaiKitLo</title>
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		<dc:creator>SaiKitLo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 20:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>according to the conspiracy theories. Numerous concentration camps had been built across North America and soldiers have been trained for the &quot;martial law&quot; when it happens. 

Boxcars and foreign armies are getting ready to help the traitors. 

Thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>according to the conspiracy theories. Numerous concentration camps had been built across North America and soldiers have been trained for the &#8220;martial law&#8221; when it happens. </p>
<p>Boxcars and foreign armies are getting ready to help the traitors. </p>
<p>Thoughts?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Will BHO’s Secret Weapon Emerge? by Freedom Solutions Group</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freedom Solutions Group</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 20:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It may be safe to say that Freedom is really only &quot;one trumped-up crises away&quot;!

I fully agree with you (most usually do!) Robert. 

Both Barack and Michelle are diametrically different from all that is American. And certainly out of touch with all the freedom and liberty loving Patriots of this great Country.

I would also like to add, that BHO may be the best example any of us may have ever seen, to the totally failed &quot;experiment&quot; called Affirmative Action.

May the Lord help us all if we have to suffer through listening to BOTH the frauds now living in the WH.

KB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It may be safe to say that Freedom is really only &#8220;one trumped-up crises away&#8221;!</p>
<p>I fully agree with you (most usually do!) Robert. </p>
<p>Both Barack and Michelle are diametrically different from all that is American. And certainly out of touch with all the freedom and liberty loving Patriots of this great Country.</p>
<p>I would also like to add, that BHO may be the best example any of us may have ever seen, to the totally failed &#8220;experiment&#8221; called Affirmative Action.</p>
<p>May the Lord help us all if we have to suffer through listening to BOTH the frauds now living in the WH.</p>
<p>KB</p>
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		<title>Comment on Will BHO’s Secret Weapon Emerge? by Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 17:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am now a huge fan of Obama.  He is shifting the paradigm towards liberty faster than any politician since Carter.  Of course this is the &quot;unintended consequence&quot; of his actions.  For once a politicians &quot;unintended consequence&quot; will do us some good.  If McCain won we would just be the same batch of frogs being boiled to lobster red.  The conservative activism that Obama is stirring is the most inspiring jolt of political awareness in a generation.  I can&#039;t wait for Michelle (with her cadre of 22 assistants) jump into the action.  There is no way she can take the heat like Hillary.  She has the hyper sensitivity of a panel guest on &quot;Maury&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am now a huge fan of Obama.  He is shifting the paradigm towards liberty faster than any politician since Carter.  Of course this is the &#8220;unintended consequence&#8221; of his actions.  For once a politicians &#8220;unintended consequence&#8221; will do us some good.  If McCain won we would just be the same batch of frogs being boiled to lobster red.  The conservative activism that Obama is stirring is the most inspiring jolt of political awareness in a generation.  I can&#8217;t wait for Michelle (with her cadre of 22 assistants) jump into the action.  There is no way she can take the heat like Hillary.  She has the hyper sensitivity of a panel guest on &#8220;Maury&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Will BHO’s Secret Weapon Emerge? by Paul Burks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Burks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 16:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It hurts to see what is happening in America. Thanks for your courage in writing about these things.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Fox News&#8217;s Liberal Future by lukebutler</title>
		<link>http://blog.robertringer.com/2010/01/19/fox-newss-liberal-future/comment-page-1/#comment-1570</link>
		<dc:creator>lukebutler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 23:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Robert,

I suggest you might take a wider and more in depth look at Rupert Murdoch&#039;s history especially as regards his backing via the influence of his media outlets of various political sides in various countries over nearly 50 years now. For example Rupert ardently backed a right wing Margaret Thatcher and later on and just as ardently the left wing Tony Blair. In Australia he has backed both sides of politics over the years both left and right and in the couple of years leading up to his 2007 victory, Rupert backed the ascendency of the left wing Kevin Rudd to become Prime Minister. 

Rupert seems driven by what he considers best for his business interests rather than by political dogma. He learned well the benefits of being a serious political kingmaker and has not been shy about exploiting the advantages wherever possible. Nor have his international media outlets been shy about  running with whatever his agenda may be at any given time. 

Don&#039;t get me wrong Robert, I am no socialist and my own personal political views are right of centre. But I know something firsthand and over a lengthy period about Rupert and this topic.

Keep up you good work.

Cheers,
LUKE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Robert,</p>
<p>I suggest you might take a wider and more in depth look at Rupert Murdoch&#8217;s history especially as regards his backing via the influence of his media outlets of various political sides in various countries over nearly 50 years now. For example Rupert ardently backed a right wing Margaret Thatcher and later on and just as ardently the left wing Tony Blair. In Australia he has backed both sides of politics over the years both left and right and in the couple of years leading up to his 2007 victory, Rupert backed the ascendency of the left wing Kevin Rudd to become Prime Minister. </p>
<p>Rupert seems driven by what he considers best for his business interests rather than by political dogma. He learned well the benefits of being a serious political kingmaker and has not been shy about exploiting the advantages wherever possible. Nor have his international media outlets been shy about  running with whatever his agenda may be at any given time. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong Robert, I am no socialist and my own personal political views are right of centre. But I know something firsthand and over a lengthy period about Rupert and this topic.</p>
<p>Keep up you good work.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
LUKE</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fox News&#8217;s Liberal Future by Freedom News Blitz &#187; Fox News and the Mass Media</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freedom News Blitz &#187; Fox News and the Mass Media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 20:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] As you may know, Fox News takes a different stand, often supporting the values our Founding Fathers built our great nation on. Robert Ringer wonders about the future of Fox News in the excellent article “Fox News’s Liberal Future?”.  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] As you may know, Fox News takes a different stand, often supporting the values our Founding Fathers built our great nation on. Robert Ringer wonders about the future of Fox News in the excellent article “Fox News’s Liberal Future?”.  [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fox News&#8217;s Liberal Future by Reality seeker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reality seeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 14:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Dear Moderator, my last post did not completely show up as it should have; Therefore, please replace it with this resubmission.....thanks.)


If, like me, you&#039;re sick of cable news and all its incessant stories which &quot;pick over the corpses&quot; of the Michal Jacksons of this world, and then turn their trashy life history into the headlines, then migrate to better sources of content.

The NRA now offers web news. Check it out. If you&#039;re not a member yet, then join up. If Obama and all his brainwashed Obamanoids get our guns, then we&#039;re in real trouble. So don&#039;t just sit there, man up and do something.

Infowars.com and prisonplanet.com offer one of the best alternative and content based programs in the world; However, some of Alex Jones&#039;s conspiracy theories go too far in my opinion. His guests, interviews, and opinions are fantastic. You want some real news from a real man, then tune in. He is the type of man that provides his own gun and his own security, and that speaks volumes to a man like myself. I want my news delivered from a man who is the complete package, not some spineless jellyfish.

All you people out there. You can report too. You can make a difference. Open a youtube account and start adding content. Educate the masses. There may still be time to avoid a total collapse of America and avoid violence. It&#039;s a long shot, but it&#039;s worth your efforts.

So remember, that on the web there is something for everybody, including you. We don&#039;t need cable news anymore........ HIP HIP HOORAY.............</description>
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<p>If, like me, you&#8217;re sick of cable news and all its incessant stories which &#8220;pick over the corpses&#8221; of the Michal Jacksons of this world, and then turn their trashy life history into the headlines, then migrate to better sources of content.</p>
<p>The NRA now offers web news. Check it out. If you&#8217;re not a member yet, then join up. If Obama and all his brainwashed Obamanoids get our guns, then we&#8217;re in real trouble. So don&#8217;t just sit there, man up and do something.</p>
<p>Infowars.com and prisonplanet.com offer one of the best alternative and content based programs in the world; However, some of Alex Jones&#8217;s conspiracy theories go too far in my opinion. His guests, interviews, and opinions are fantastic. You want some real news from a real man, then tune in. He is the type of man that provides his own gun and his own security, and that speaks volumes to a man like myself. I want my news delivered from a man who is the complete package, not some spineless jellyfish.</p>
<p>All you people out there. You can report too. You can make a difference. Open a youtube account and start adding content. Educate the masses. There may still be time to avoid a total collapse of America and avoid violence. It&#8217;s a long shot, but it&#8217;s worth your efforts.</p>
<p>So remember, that on the web there is something for everybody, including you. We don&#8217;t need cable news anymore&#8230;&#8230;.. HIP HIP HOORAY&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fox News&#8217;s Liberal Future by Dan Broderick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Broderick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 03:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert,

Here is the flaw in your concern.  Fox News is a cash cow.  This fact can&#039;t be ignored.  I expect that other networks will someday imitate Fox.  Why would Fox fix something that ain&#039;t broken?</description>
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<p>Here is the flaw in your concern.  Fox News is a cash cow.  This fact can&#8217;t be ignored.  I expect that other networks will someday imitate Fox.  Why would Fox fix something that ain&#8217;t broken?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fox News&#8217;s Liberal Future by Reality seeker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reality seeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 01:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The next wave of the future has nothing to do with cable news. Cable news, as a whole, has peaked. From here on out it&#039;s a leveling off for the networks as a whole, and then it&#039;s all down hill for cable news as we now know it. 

A sagacious trends forecaster by the name of Gerald Celente has just predicted that &quot;web news that is content based&quot; will be one of the next big trends in America. What that means is individuals, like myself and millions of others, are recognizing that the Internet is a far better source/resource to become informed and educated than cable TV is. Take this blog for example, I could never hope to get the quality information and analysis on cable TV as I get right here. Not even Mr. Beck rises to Mr. Ringer&#039;s level--- not yet anyway. Cable news and Glenn Beck are now the exception, not the rule, for the source of real news, real ideas, and real men &amp; women. The rule has become the Internet. AM talk radio is still an excellent source/resource, but with the Internet I can laser right in on what I want and need as an individual. The one-size-fits-all news outlets are on there way out.

Gerald Celente is another great example of how the Internet is such a great source/resource because, if you want to fully benefit from his wisdom, then it can only be done on the &quot;net&quot;. King World News is also all about quality &quot;web based content.&quot; Content content, content, if you want it, then the Internet is the place to be. And America is catching on this idea fast. I watch the numbers every day and this &quot;superhighway&quot; of news and information is just beginning. Take the Drudge report, for example, as a very good source for news. I look at it, and I find that it&#039;s all I need to get me started. Who the heck wants to view all those time wasting commercials that flood cable news anyway, right? The last time I watched Bill O&#039;Reilly&#039;s &quot;The Factor&quot;(almost 6 months ago) I noticed that the commercial interruptions were so numerous that it was just plain pathetic. Add up all the time spent on commercials alone, and I have reason enough to abandon cable news. I only have one life, and I&#039;ll be dammed if I&#039;ll spend it listening to shallow commentary that&#039;s flooded with commercials. To hell with spineless Fox News, I have so many better sources.

Have you listened to the commercial free Liberty Education Interview Series? Believe me, you&#039;re not going to get anything better on cable news. 

Remember: &quot;Content based&quot; Web TV is where it&#039;s at, and it&#039;s only going to get better and better. Bye bye Fox News. My great grand-children won&#039;t even remember you as you are now. You, Fox News, with all your commercials, are the next dinosaur.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The next wave of the future has nothing to do with cable news. Cable news, as a whole, has peaked. From here on out it&#8217;s a leveling off for the networks as a whole, and then it&#8217;s all down hill for cable news as we now know it. </p>
<p>A sagacious trends forecaster by the name of Gerald Celente has just predicted that &#8220;web news that is content based&#8221; will be one of the next big trends in America. What that means is individuals, like myself and millions of others, are recognizing that the Internet is a far better source/resource to become informed and educated than cable TV is. Take this blog for example, I could never hope to get the quality information and analysis on cable TV as I get right here. Not even Mr. Beck rises to Mr. Ringer&#8217;s level&#8212; not yet anyway. Cable news and Glenn Beck are now the exception, not the rule, for the source of real news, real ideas, and real men &amp; women. The rule has become the Internet. AM talk radio is still an excellent source/resource, but with the Internet I can laser right in on what I want and need as an individual. The one-size-fits-all news outlets are on there way out.</p>
<p>Gerald Celente is another great example of how the Internet is such a great source/resource because, if you want to fully benefit from his wisdom, then it can only be done on the &#8220;net&#8221;. King World News is also all about quality &#8220;web based content.&#8221; Content content, content, if you want it, then the Internet is the place to be. And America is catching on this idea fast. I watch the numbers every day and this &#8220;superhighway&#8221; of news and information is just beginning. Take the Drudge report, for example, as a very good source for news. I look at it, and I find that it&#8217;s all I need to get me started. Who the heck wants to view all those time wasting commercials that flood cable news anyway, right? The last time I watched Bill O&#8217;Reilly&#8217;s &#8220;The Factor&#8221;(almost 6 months ago) I noticed that the commercial interruptions were so numerous that it was just plain pathetic. Add up all the time spent on commercials alone, and I have reason enough to abandon cable news. I only have one life, and I&#8217;ll be dammed if I&#8217;ll spend it listening to shallow commentary that&#8217;s flooded with commercials. To hell with spineless Fox News, I have so many better sources.</p>
<p>Have you listened to the commercial free Liberty Education Interview Series? Believe me, you&#8217;re not going to get anything better on cable news. </p>
<p>Remember: &#8220;Content based&#8221; Web TV is where it&#8217;s at, and it&#8217;s only going to get better and better. Bye bye Fox News. My great grand-children won&#8217;t even remember you as you are now. You, Fox News, with all your commercials, are the next dinosaur.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fox News&#8217;s Liberal Future by Larry W. Seymour</title>
		<link>http://blog.robertringer.com/2010/01/19/fox-newss-liberal-future/comment-page-1/#comment-1562</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry W. Seymour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 01:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your Comments about Fox News are most disturbing but a possibility we must all be aware of.  Fox News is like a lifeline--they have been even more effective than Russ Limbaugh when it comes to reaching a big segment of America.

If you haven&#039;t seen it you might want to check out one of the latest NewsMax Blogs about the secret meeting with Fox News in the WhiteHouse.  Better yet
pick up the latest issue on the newstand about the
meeting.</description>
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<p>If you haven&#8217;t seen it you might want to check out one of the latest NewsMax Blogs about the secret meeting with Fox News in the WhiteHouse.  Better yet<br />
pick up the latest issue on the newstand about the<br />
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		<title>Comment on Fox News&#8217;s Liberal Future by Joe McLaughlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe McLaughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 21:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article. Thanks.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Fox News&#8217;s Liberal Future by 00baddad</title>
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		<dc:creator>00baddad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 20:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yipps! Awsome article. The thought of Fox going liberal make me sick to my stomach. 

                     Thanks  George</description>
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<p>                     Thanks  George</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fox News&#8217;s Liberal Future by KATrimels</title>
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		<dc:creator>KATrimels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 20:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s very simple, Robert - someone else with the means (cash and/or elbow grease) will create the next FoxNews.  And it likely will involve alternative distribution means such as the Internet; this is much more appealing to the sub-30 demographic already.  Check out Pajamas TV for an example.

As you note, however, we must never become complacent in this battle for liberty; vigilance is the eternal price for liberty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s very simple, Robert &#8211; someone else with the means (cash and/or elbow grease) will create the next FoxNews.  And it likely will involve alternative distribution means such as the Internet; this is much more appealing to the sub-30 demographic already.  Check out Pajamas TV for an example.</p>
<p>As you note, however, we must never become complacent in this battle for liberty; vigilance is the eternal price for liberty.</p>
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		<title>Comment on On the Development of a Spine by Robert Bonter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Bonter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 20:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert -  On another topic, could you, in some future column, address the Constitutionality, or unconstitutionality, of the Obama Administration blantantly currying favor with labor unions by waving taxes for them, pertaining to health care?  In other words, &quot;Vote for me and you get a tax break, don&#039;t vote for me and I stick it to you.&quot;

What about the rest of us, and the added tax burden this favoratism imposes upon us. How in the Hell can this business of paying off constituents and bilking the rest of us be legal, and be tolerated by those of us who do not suck up to this candy dispenser?   Thanks for any input you have to offer in this regard - I am incensed that these sleaze ball leftists have the gall to take their back room deals public!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert &#8211;  On another topic, could you, in some future column, address the Constitutionality, or unconstitutionality, of the Obama Administration blantantly currying favor with labor unions by waving taxes for them, pertaining to health care?  In other words, &#8220;Vote for me and you get a tax break, don&#8217;t vote for me and I stick it to you.&#8221;</p>
<p>What about the rest of us, and the added tax burden this favoratism imposes upon us. How in the Hell can this business of paying off constituents and bilking the rest of us be legal, and be tolerated by those of us who do not suck up to this candy dispenser?   Thanks for any input you have to offer in this regard &#8211; I am incensed that these sleaze ball leftists have the gall to take their back room deals public!</p>
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		<title>Comment on On the Development of a Spine by Harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 08:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama Banning All Firearms 
 
Obama Takes First Step in Banning All Firearms On Wednesday the Obama administration took its first major step in a plan to ban all firearms in the United States. The Obama administration intends to force gun control and a complete ban on all weapons for US citizens through the signing of international treaties with foreign nations. By signing international treaties on gun control, the Obama administration can use the US State Department to bypass the normal legislative process in Congress. Once the US Government signs these international treaties, all US citizens will be subject to those gun laws created by foreign governments. These are laws that have been developed and promoted by organizations such as the United Nations and individuals such as George Soros and Michael Bloomberg. The laws are designed and intended to lead to the complete ban and confiscation of all firearms. The Obama administration is attempting to use tactics and methods of gun control that will inflict major damage to our 2nd Amendment before US citizens even understand what has happened. Obama can appear before the public and tell them that he does not intend to pursue any legislation (in the United States) that will lead to new gun control laws, while cloaked in secrecy, his Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton is committing the US to international treaties and foreign gun control laws. Does that mean Obama is telling the truth? What it means is that there will be no publicized gun control debates in the media or votes in Congress. We will wake up one morning and find that the Unite d States has signed a treaty that prohibits firearm and ammunition manufacturers from selling to the public. 
 
We will wake up another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that prohibits any transfer of firearm ownership. And then, we will wake up yet another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that requires US citizens to deliver any firearm they own to the local government collection and destruction center or face imprisonment. This is not a joke nor a false warning. As sure as government health care will be forced on us by the Obama administration through whatever means necessary,  so will gun control. 
 
Read the Article U.S. reverses stance on treaty to regulate arms trade WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States reversed policy on Wednesday and said it would back launching talks on a treaty to regulate arms sales as long as the talks operated by consensus, a stance critics said gave every nation a veto. The decision, announced in a statement released by the U.S. State Department, overturns the position of former President George W. Bush&#039;s administration, which had opposed such a treaty on the grounds that national controls were better. The Full Article http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE59E0Q920091015 http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE59E0Q920091015 Please forward this message to others who may be concerned about the direction in which our country is headed. Silence will lead us to Socialism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama Banning All Firearms </p>
<p>Obama Takes First Step in Banning All Firearms On Wednesday the Obama administration took its first major step in a plan to ban all firearms in the United States. The Obama administration intends to force gun control and a complete ban on all weapons for US citizens through the signing of international treaties with foreign nations. By signing international treaties on gun control, the Obama administration can use the US State Department to bypass the normal legislative process in Congress. Once the US Government signs these international treaties, all US citizens will be subject to those gun laws created by foreign governments. These are laws that have been developed and promoted by organizations such as the United Nations and individuals such as George Soros and Michael Bloomberg. The laws are designed and intended to lead to the complete ban and confiscation of all firearms. The Obama administration is attempting to use tactics and methods of gun control that will inflict major damage to our 2nd Amendment before US citizens even understand what has happened. Obama can appear before the public and tell them that he does not intend to pursue any legislation (in the United States) that will lead to new gun control laws, while cloaked in secrecy, his Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton is committing the US to international treaties and foreign gun control laws. Does that mean Obama is telling the truth? What it means is that there will be no publicized gun control debates in the media or votes in Congress. We will wake up one morning and find that the Unite d States has signed a treaty that prohibits firearm and ammunition manufacturers from selling to the public. </p>
<p>We will wake up another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that prohibits any transfer of firearm ownership. And then, we will wake up yet another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that requires US citizens to deliver any firearm they own to the local government collection and destruction center or face imprisonment. This is not a joke nor a false warning. As sure as government health care will be forced on us by the Obama administration through whatever means necessary,  so will gun control. </p>
<p>Read the Article U.S. reverses stance on treaty to regulate arms trade WASHINGTON (Reuters) &#8211; The United States reversed policy on Wednesday and said it would back launching talks on a treaty to regulate arms sales as long as the talks operated by consensus, a stance critics said gave every nation a veto. The decision, announced in a statement released by the U.S. State Department, overturns the position of former President George W. Bush&#8217;s administration, which had opposed such a treaty on the grounds that national controls were better. The Full Article <a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE59E0Q920091015" rel="nofollow">http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE59E0Q920091015</a> <a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE59E0Q920091015" rel="nofollow">http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE59E0Q920091015</a> Please forward this message to others who may be concerned about the direction in which our country is headed. Silence will lead us to Socialism.</p>
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		<title>Comment on On the Development of a Spine by JamesHurley</title>
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		<dc:creator>JamesHurley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 21:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fundamental problem is that it is a necessary condition of success in America...(not a sufficient condition) that you should hold yourself out as a multi-culti 3rd world immigration supporting person, otherwise...woe betide you...

This was been brought about by black-hating people like Ted Kennedy and his like who decided to take on this pretentious image of a champion of the underpriviliged...of being withour race prejudice...

Unfortunately, a prostitute pretending to be a virgin is not the same as a virgin...

So, the late &quot;Lion of The Senate&quot; would say...&quot;Give them affirmative action...&quot; which is an implicit admission of deficit amongst blacks...as opposed to encouraging blacks to fight proudly on a level turf...if so many blacks can perform highly in most fields...why cannot all give it a good go...and que sera sera</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fundamental problem is that it is a necessary condition of success in America&#8230;(not a sufficient condition) that you should hold yourself out as a multi-culti 3rd world immigration supporting person, otherwise&#8230;woe betide you&#8230;</p>
<p>This was been brought about by black-hating people like Ted Kennedy and his like who decided to take on this pretentious image of a champion of the underpriviliged&#8230;of being withour race prejudice&#8230;</p>
<p>Unfortunately, a prostitute pretending to be a virgin is not the same as a virgin&#8230;</p>
<p>So, the late &#8220;Lion of The Senate&#8221; would say&#8230;&#8221;Give them affirmative action&#8230;&#8221; which is an implicit admission of deficit amongst blacks&#8230;as opposed to encouraging blacks to fight proudly on a level turf&#8230;if so many blacks can perform highly in most fields&#8230;why cannot all give it a good go&#8230;and que sera sera</p>
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		<title>Comment on On the Development of a Spine by Reality seeker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reality seeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 00:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re correct Mr. Ringer, I did chuckle at your revelation of having an &quot;archetypal liberal hippie&quot; as a girlfriend. I never had such a girlfriend, because I recognize the natural enemies to my long term happiness.

More to the point: Let&#039;s not forget individuals like Sarah The Spineless Barracuda and how they lack the insight to fully recognize their natural enemies and the conviction to confront them head on, right in their face. Perhaps, in time, and after a penetrating core change, Sarah can assume a leadership role. Frankly, I doubt it. Why? Leadership is almost like a gift, and you ether have it or you don&#039;t baby....... ...that&#039;s why.

So O.K., is there anybody out there who has a spine? Is there anybody out there that clearly recognizes the enemy and has a VIABLE plan of action? Is there anybody out there that is both an educator and a brave man---a man that would not be afraid to lead a bloody fight when it comes to that?

Yes, there is such a man. A real man. The complete package. A man that you could stand next to in a real fight. He&#039;s not perfect, but if the Founding Fathers were alive, then I&#039;m sure that he would fit right in. He would also fit in at the Alamo;Yes, he&#039;s that kind of a man.

This man&#039;s ratings have grown 46% in the in past six months. The viewer growth of his site is blowing Glenn Beck&#039;s and Rush Limbaugh&#039;s right out of the water. The Drudge Report, the number-one news website in the world, has just added this patriotic man&#039;s program as a link.

Yes, there is a new sheriff in town straight from the grass roots of America. And he&#039;s a sharp-shooter who&#039;s gunning for community/environmental organizers. He&#039;s a patriot who has been warning of America turning into a police state for the last 14 years. A man who Glenn Beck is just now starting to catch up to---in terms of his conspiracy theories. A man who &quot;gets it.&quot; A pitbull of a man that eats Spineless Barracudas for lunch. Saul Alinsky&#039;s worst nightmare. A man who knows how to quote George Washington: &quot;The thing that sets the American Christian apart from all other people in the world is he will DIE on his feet, before he&#039;ll LIVE on his knees.&quot; 

Many individuals such as Judge Andrew Napolitano appear on his program regularly. I&#039;m sure that the Judge does not agree with everything that he says, but, like me, the Judge respects him. By the way, the Judge is one of the very, very few men who &quot;gets it.&quot; I don&#039;t know if the Judge is a valiant man who could get his hands bloody in a real fight, but he has a mind like a bear trap.


Listen people, there is a new party coming. There is a core of valiant men &amp; women developing that is about to explode onto the mainstream like a stick of dynamite. They will attempt to take America back from the traitors who have gripped us with the oligarchic strangle-hold that is killing our beloved country. In fact, there is only one way to stop them, and that&#039;s if you kill them.
 
The only thing negative I can say about the man is that his conspiracy theories may go to far. 

See for yourself: http://www.youtube.com/user/RealNewsChannel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re correct Mr. Ringer, I did chuckle at your revelation of having an &#8220;archetypal liberal hippie&#8221; as a girlfriend. I never had such a girlfriend, because I recognize the natural enemies to my long term happiness.</p>
<p>More to the point: Let&#8217;s not forget individuals like Sarah The Spineless Barracuda and how they lack the insight to fully recognize their natural enemies and the conviction to confront them head on, right in their face. Perhaps, in time, and after a penetrating core change, Sarah can assume a leadership role. Frankly, I doubt it. Why? Leadership is almost like a gift, and you ether have it or you don&#8217;t baby&#8230;&#8230;. &#8230;that&#8217;s why.</p>
<p>So O.K., is there anybody out there who has a spine? Is there anybody out there that clearly recognizes the enemy and has a VIABLE plan of action? Is there anybody out there that is both an educator and a brave man&#8212;a man that would not be afraid to lead a bloody fight when it comes to that?</p>
<p>Yes, there is such a man. A real man. The complete package. A man that you could stand next to in a real fight. He&#8217;s not perfect, but if the Founding Fathers were alive, then I&#8217;m sure that he would fit right in. He would also fit in at the Alamo;Yes, he&#8217;s that kind of a man.</p>
<p>This man&#8217;s ratings have grown 46% in the in past six months. The viewer growth of his site is blowing Glenn Beck&#8217;s and Rush Limbaugh&#8217;s right out of the water. The Drudge Report, the number-one news website in the world, has just added this patriotic man&#8217;s program as a link.</p>
<p>Yes, there is a new sheriff in town straight from the grass roots of America. And he&#8217;s a sharp-shooter who&#8217;s gunning for community/environmental organizers. He&#8217;s a patriot who has been warning of America turning into a police state for the last 14 years. A man who Glenn Beck is just now starting to catch up to&#8212;in terms of his conspiracy theories. A man who &#8220;gets it.&#8221; A pitbull of a man that eats Spineless Barracudas for lunch. Saul Alinsky&#8217;s worst nightmare. A man who knows how to quote George Washington: &#8220;The thing that sets the American Christian apart from all other people in the world is he will DIE on his feet, before he&#8217;ll LIVE on his knees.&#8221; </p>
<p>Many individuals such as Judge Andrew Napolitano appear on his program regularly. I&#8217;m sure that the Judge does not agree with everything that he says, but, like me, the Judge respects him. By the way, the Judge is one of the very, very few men who &#8220;gets it.&#8221; I don&#8217;t know if the Judge is a valiant man who could get his hands bloody in a real fight, but he has a mind like a bear trap.</p>
<p>Listen people, there is a new party coming. There is a core of valiant men &amp; women developing that is about to explode onto the mainstream like a stick of dynamite. They will attempt to take America back from the traitors who have gripped us with the oligarchic strangle-hold that is killing our beloved country. In fact, there is only one way to stop them, and that&#8217;s if you kill them.</p>
<p>The only thing negative I can say about the man is that his conspiracy theories may go to far. </p>
<p>See for yourself: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/RealNewsChannel" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/user/RealNewsChannel</a></p>
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		<dc:creator>deusimplicitus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 23:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The democrats always defend their own, whether the person they are defending is right or wrong, usually wrong. This is because it is more important for democrats to WIN at any cost, as opposed to standing for a sense of justice and equality. 

The republicans have no spine and cower and run at the first sign of a controversy involving one pf their own, especially revolving around the issue of political correctness.

We&#039;re doomed, unless something dramatic takes place in American politics this year. The writing is already on the wall and most of us prefer to mentally reside in the unspoken 51st state of the UnitedStates.....the state of Ofdenial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The democrats always defend their own, whether the person they are defending is right or wrong, usually wrong. This is because it is more important for democrats to WIN at any cost, as opposed to standing for a sense of justice and equality. </p>
<p>The republicans have no spine and cower and run at the first sign of a controversy involving one pf their own, especially revolving around the issue of political correctness.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re doomed, unless something dramatic takes place in American politics this year. The writing is already on the wall and most of us prefer to mentally reside in the unspoken 51st state of the UnitedStates&#8230;..the state of Ofdenial.</p>
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		<title>Comment on On the Development of a Spine by Robert Bonter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Bonter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 22:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is ironic, or perhaps it is just blatantly hypocritical, that Leftists call their party the &quot;Democrat Party.&quot;

The word &quot;democrat&quot; is derived from the word &quot;democracy.&quot;  Part of the definition of the word democracy is &quot;majority rule.&quot;  And yet these  always contorted and contradictory Leftists derive all their power from the opposite of majority rule - MINORITY RULE.  Thanks to them we live in a Minocracy, for lack of a better word, The MSA, Minority States  of Amercia. Without racial and gender minorities, without a massive alien population, both legal and illegal, and without an amoral, atheistic element to comprise their base of support, they would die on the vine.  We are now the Minority States of America, with the foundational values which helped establish our nation&#039;s greatness now in tatters, such is the compelling minority demagoging for fun and profit as practiced by these swinish, Marxist &quot;Democrats,&quot; of today.  

All this values demoliton momentum got its start with &quot;equal rights&quot; legislation which effectively criminalized freedom of choice as to who we can hire and rent to, and countless other proscriptions on individual freedom and decision-making autonomy. 

This is what we get for going along with misplaced &quot;emotional appeals,&quot; instead of steadfastly maintaining and defending this nation&#039;s foundational principles against the systematic chipping away of our Constitution bylaws. So that the passivity of those on the Right, today, is old news, for generations, now.  Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon, now both vilified and glorified in death, according to one&#039;s historical perspective,  were &quot;America First&quot; anomalies, just as the America they loved and represented is now dead and buried, replaced by a watered-down, Western Hemisphere version of the old Soviet Union, which simply transferred its base of operations to our back yard, at a time when we thought world Communism was vanquished, forever.  It is interesting to note how  the forces of Capitalism and freedom won the external war, but the forces of Communism and totalitarian socialistic enslavement have won the internal war for control of what used to be the United States of America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is ironic, or perhaps it is just blatantly hypocritical, that Leftists call their party the &#8220;Democrat Party.&#8221;</p>
<p>The word &#8220;democrat&#8221; is derived from the word &#8220;democracy.&#8221;  Part of the definition of the word democracy is &#8220;majority rule.&#8221;  And yet these  always contorted and contradictory Leftists derive all their power from the opposite of majority rule &#8211; MINORITY RULE.  Thanks to them we live in a Minocracy, for lack of a better word, The MSA, Minority States  of Amercia. Without racial and gender minorities, without a massive alien population, both legal and illegal, and without an amoral, atheistic element to comprise their base of support, they would die on the vine.  We are now the Minority States of America, with the foundational values which helped establish our nation&#8217;s greatness now in tatters, such is the compelling minority demagoging for fun and profit as practiced by these swinish, Marxist &#8220;Democrats,&#8221; of today.  </p>
<p>All this values demoliton momentum got its start with &#8220;equal rights&#8221; legislation which effectively criminalized freedom of choice as to who we can hire and rent to, and countless other proscriptions on individual freedom and decision-making autonomy. </p>
<p>This is what we get for going along with misplaced &#8220;emotional appeals,&#8221; instead of steadfastly maintaining and defending this nation&#8217;s foundational principles against the systematic chipping away of our Constitution bylaws. So that the passivity of those on the Right, today, is old news, for generations, now.  Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon, now both vilified and glorified in death, according to one&#8217;s historical perspective,  were &#8220;America First&#8221; anomalies, just as the America they loved and represented is now dead and buried, replaced by a watered-down, Western Hemisphere version of the old Soviet Union, which simply transferred its base of operations to our back yard, at a time when we thought world Communism was vanquished, forever.  It is interesting to note how  the forces of Capitalism and freedom won the external war, but the forces of Communism and totalitarian socialistic enslavement have won the internal war for control of what used to be the United States of America.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Tex Norton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 20:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suggest we all join the 4-H Club: Help Hustle Harry Home - to Nevada.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Saul, Barack, and Me &#8211; Part III by sandworm</title>
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		<dc:creator>sandworm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 21:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama? A &quot;sock it to the rich&quot; wealth-redistributing socialist out to destroy America?

Don&#039;t make me laugh.

Obama is in the same corporate pockets as GWB.  

He approved and hawked  a 10 TRILLION dollar redistribution of taxpayer wealth to banks, investment houses, and Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac.   He&#039;s continuing GWB&#039;s TWO wars, even talking like GWB when he blathers on about &quot;evil&quot; and having to fight it.

If you really want to fool people, hold up the imitation or illusion of a difference between two choices, each of which, in this case, lead to fascism: the marriage of corporations and government to the detriment of the rest of us.

Robert, you aren&#039;t seeing reality clearly on this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama? A &#8220;sock it to the rich&#8221; wealth-redistributing socialist out to destroy America?</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t make me laugh.</p>
<p>Obama is in the same corporate pockets as GWB.  </p>
<p>He approved and hawked  a 10 TRILLION dollar redistribution of taxpayer wealth to banks, investment houses, and Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac.   He&#8217;s continuing GWB&#8217;s TWO wars, even talking like GWB when he blathers on about &#8220;evil&#8221; and having to fight it.</p>
<p>If you really want to fool people, hold up the imitation or illusion of a difference between two choices, each of which, in this case, lead to fascism: the marriage of corporations and government to the detriment of the rest of us.</p>
<p>Robert, you aren&#8217;t seeing reality clearly on this one.</p>
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		<dc:creator>sandworm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What we have here is corporate fascism: Obama may masquerade as a &quot;sock it to the rich&quot; socialist, but look who he&#039;s surrounded himself with in his cabinet.

He&#039;s presided over a 10 trillion dollar corporate welfare/bail-out package to banks, Wall Street, etc, paid for by the taxpayer(read: middle class).

He just went to Congress to ask for a record 70 billion for GWB&#039;s two wars.

This is someone Saul Alinksy would have approved of?

I don&#039;t think so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What we have here is corporate fascism: Obama may masquerade as a &#8220;sock it to the rich&#8221; socialist, but look who he&#8217;s surrounded himself with in his cabinet.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s presided over a 10 trillion dollar corporate welfare/bail-out package to banks, Wall Street, etc, paid for by the taxpayer(read: middle class).</p>
<p>He just went to Congress to ask for a record 70 billion for GWB&#8217;s two wars.</p>
<p>This is someone Saul Alinksy would have approved of?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think so.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Saul, Barack, and Me, Part VI by Reality seeker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reality seeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My working definition of &quot;no soul&quot; is different in this current discussion:

What I mean by &quot;soulless&quot; is lacking in character, heartless, no human core, diven by ambition, desirous of power, empty of morality, wanting to lord over people, motivated by an evil philosophy(such as community organizing), a lover of corruption rather than a lover of God and/or people, habitual lier, hypocrite, ego without virtue.

In short, the perfect example of a very large group of modern day soulless people---living dead--- are the oligarchists who are running America into the ground for their own personal gain. The banksters,
brokesters, community mobsters, the bureaucratic racketeers, the syndicated federal government, and on and on the list goes of people who have lost or are losing their souls.

The processing of our children&#039;s minds in the highly centralized public school system( aka The Public Brainwashing Asylums For The Young) is the starting point for ripping the souls right out of our
children and turning them into soulless hybrids of Alinsky. The finished products are not real people at all, but they are little soulless community organizers and/or enviro-organizers. The little
neo-social/fascists grow up to love, laugh, sing, and express &quot;FEELINGS&quot; of joy as they shred to pieces what&#039;s left of the Bill Of Rights. These little children are now Alinsky&#039;s children. And boy
would he be proud of his brainwashed, soulless army.

This growing army---Alinsky&#039;s army--- is massing and organizing itself for the final assault. True, it&#039;s not well lead, but neither is its opposition; However, The Alinsky army&#039;s numbers are vast. And soon---in our lifetime--- the soulful lovers of God&#039;s inalienable rights will loose those rights as the soulless army coerces them away. The soulful will be body scanned and brain scanned. They will be forced to conform to the soulless, collective will.......

There is one other option that will present itself after lovers of freedom fail to educate and rehab the brainwashed and soulless hoi polloi. What is that option?

After all the muddling through stops, then there is going to be a classic climax of good-vs-evil. Some people will choose a side and fight, and some will run away and just try and survive 

The outcome of the this classic fight will depend on leadership, strategy, and valor. 

&quot;In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.&quot;

Let&#039;s hope Mr. Mark Twain is wrong and the timid among us start to grow a spine. Speaking of spineless, did you see the latest Sarah Palin interviews? All those soft-ball questions that Glenn Beck pitched, and Sarah The Spineless Palin could not even come up with even one inspiring thought. What a laugh, I mean really, her and Glenn discussing their &quot;favorite founding father&quot; George Washington. I can see it all now, Sarah The Spineless Palin hailed as the female version of George Washington by the Republicans.

Clearly, Glenn has a soul and he understands how to use the term soulless very well in his discussions. Sarah, on the other hand, reminded me of a deer in the headlights. She may be called a barracuda, but she acts more like a hooked goldfish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My working definition of &#8220;no soul&#8221; is different in this current discussion:</p>
<p>What I mean by &#8220;soulless&#8221; is lacking in character, heartless, no human core, diven by ambition, desirous of power, empty of morality, wanting to lord over people, motivated by an evil philosophy(such as community organizing), a lover of corruption rather than a lover of God and/or people, habitual lier, hypocrite, ego without virtue.</p>
<p>In short, the perfect example of a very large group of modern day soulless people&#8212;living dead&#8212; are the oligarchists who are running America into the ground for their own personal gain. The banksters,<br />
brokesters, community mobsters, the bureaucratic racketeers, the syndicated federal government, and on and on the list goes of people who have lost or are losing their souls.</p>
<p>The processing of our children&#8217;s minds in the highly centralized public school system( aka The Public Brainwashing Asylums For The Young) is the starting point for ripping the souls right out of our<br />
children and turning them into soulless hybrids of Alinsky. The finished products are not real people at all, but they are little soulless community organizers and/or enviro-organizers. The little<br />
neo-social/fascists grow up to love, laugh, sing, and express &#8220;FEELINGS&#8221; of joy as they shred to pieces what&#8217;s left of the Bill Of Rights. These little children are now Alinsky&#8217;s children. And boy<br />
would he be proud of his brainwashed, soulless army.</p>
<p>This growing army&#8212;Alinsky&#8217;s army&#8212; is massing and organizing itself for the final assault. True, it&#8217;s not well lead, but neither is its opposition; However, The Alinsky army&#8217;s numbers are vast. And soon&#8212;in our lifetime&#8212; the soulful lovers of God&#8217;s inalienable rights will loose those rights as the soulless army coerces them away. The soulful will be body scanned and brain scanned. They will be forced to conform to the soulless, collective will&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>There is one other option that will present itself after lovers of freedom fail to educate and rehab the brainwashed and soulless hoi polloi. What is that option?</p>
<p>After all the muddling through stops, then there is going to be a classic climax of good-vs-evil. Some people will choose a side and fight, and some will run away and just try and survive </p>
<p>The outcome of the this classic fight will depend on leadership, strategy, and valor. </p>
<p>&#8220;In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.&#8221;</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s hope Mr. Mark Twain is wrong and the timid among us start to grow a spine. Speaking of spineless, did you see the latest Sarah Palin interviews? All those soft-ball questions that Glenn Beck pitched, and Sarah The Spineless Palin could not even come up with even one inspiring thought. What a laugh, I mean really, her and Glenn discussing their &#8220;favorite founding father&#8221; George Washington. I can see it all now, Sarah The Spineless Palin hailed as the female version of George Washington by the Republicans.</p>
<p>Clearly, Glenn has a soul and he understands how to use the term soulless very well in his discussions. Sarah, on the other hand, reminded me of a deer in the headlights. She may be called a barracuda, but she acts more like a hooked goldfish.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Saul, Barack, and Me, Part VI by deusimplicitus</title>
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		<dc:creator>deusimplicitus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 17:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the present government can no longer hide or obfuscate the true and sobering statistics of our national rapid plunge into undeniable collapse, the American people starting to wake up and get it. They know they&#039;ve been played and lied to with more empty promises based on &quot;feel good&quot; policy and philosophy, that simply does not work in the real world.
 Watch for more outrageous and wilder desperate moves from the current administration and their political cohorts, as they feel their support and their power slipping away as the truth breaks into the fantasy and exposes to the light, the bleak outlook should the nation remain on this current suicidal course.

There is a survival instinct in every individual and in every society. The crux of the matter is whether that survival instinct will kick in amongst the majority of Americans before this threat to our very survival can consolidate power.

It&#039;s time to do penance by rejecting the political &quot;business as usual&quot; outlook, and thus return the nation to the values that produced stability and prosperity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the present government can no longer hide or obfuscate the true and sobering statistics of our national rapid plunge into undeniable collapse, the American people starting to wake up and get it. They know they&#8217;ve been played and lied to with more empty promises based on &#8220;feel good&#8221; policy and philosophy, that simply does not work in the real world.<br />
 Watch for more outrageous and wilder desperate moves from the current administration and their political cohorts, as they feel their support and their power slipping away as the truth breaks into the fantasy and exposes to the light, the bleak outlook should the nation remain on this current suicidal course.</p>
<p>There is a survival instinct in every individual and in every society. The crux of the matter is whether that survival instinct will kick in amongst the majority of Americans before this threat to our very survival can consolidate power.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time to do penance by rejecting the political &#8220;business as usual&#8221; outlook, and thus return the nation to the values that produced stability and prosperity.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 17:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me that Saul Alinsky resembles the Ellsworth Toohey character from Ayn Rand&#039;s &quot;The Fountainhead&quot;.  Toohey was an intellectual giant who used his skills to intimidate followers (including his own niece)that the only moral life was to sacrifice yourself to the collective.  The only people he couldn&#039;t control were people of integrity like Howard Roarke whom he tried to destroy.  By the end of the novel Toohey finally admits his motivation all along was to consolidate power over people of means.  

It&#039;s amazing how Rand was able to recognize and illustrate so clearly people of Alinsky&#039;s mindset so many decades ago.  Alinsky was not the first &quot;Ellsworth Toohey&quot; to be inflicted upon society, and he certainly won&#039;t be the last</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that Saul Alinsky resembles the Ellsworth Toohey character from Ayn Rand&#8217;s &#8220;The Fountainhead&#8221;.  Toohey was an intellectual giant who used his skills to intimidate followers (including his own niece)that the only moral life was to sacrifice yourself to the collective.  The only people he couldn&#8217;t control were people of integrity like Howard Roarke whom he tried to destroy.  By the end of the novel Toohey finally admits his motivation all along was to consolidate power over people of means.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s amazing how Rand was able to recognize and illustrate so clearly people of Alinsky&#8217;s mindset so many decades ago.  Alinsky was not the first &#8220;Ellsworth Toohey&#8221; to be inflicted upon society, and he certainly won&#8217;t be the last</p>
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		<dc:creator>JohnFreeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 16:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can I locate parts I II &amp; III of this article?</description>
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		<dc:creator>deusimplicitus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert,
You wrote, &quot;This is an important statement by Alinsky, because it opens the floodgates to interpret the term general welfare in any way one chooses. In other words, simply wanting something makes it right. If your desire is to play God and steal from those you deem to be rich and give the stolen loot to those you deem to be poor, so be it. If that’s what you want, it’s moral. Nice and simple.&quot;

I myself would indeed like to play God, that is, if the only qualification for playing God, is receiving a majority of votes from an easily deceived electorate. 

It would seem that divinity and omnipotence are no longer considered to be sui generis traits. These traits are now self-bestowed by the numerous self appointed, self-indulgent, and self delusional God-like human beings..also known as U.S. politicians and the angry tormented infallible malcontents who compose the philosophies on which these present hog at trough U.S. politicians base their socialistic actions and beliefs. 

Socialism works. It just hasn&#039;t been done correctly, or so the lost and misguided line of modern adherents to this failed political philosophy claim. Must we allow the slaughter of another 100 million human beings, as occurred in the 20th century by prior socialists, to prove that socialism in all of it&#039;s various hydra-like forms, cannot and will never work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert,<br />
You wrote, &#8220;This is an important statement by Alinsky, because it opens the floodgates to interpret the term general welfare in any way one chooses. In other words, simply wanting something makes it right. If your desire is to play God and steal from those you deem to be rich and give the stolen loot to those you deem to be poor, so be it. If that’s what you want, it’s moral. Nice and simple.&#8221;</p>
<p>I myself would indeed like to play God, that is, if the only qualification for playing God, is receiving a majority of votes from an easily deceived electorate. </p>
<p>It would seem that divinity and omnipotence are no longer considered to be sui generis traits. These traits are now self-bestowed by the numerous self appointed, self-indulgent, and self delusional God-like human beings..also known as U.S. politicians and the angry tormented infallible malcontents who compose the philosophies on which these present hog at trough U.S. politicians base their socialistic actions and beliefs. </p>
<p>Socialism works. It just hasn&#8217;t been done correctly, or so the lost and misguided line of modern adherents to this failed political philosophy claim. Must we allow the slaughter of another 100 million human beings, as occurred in the 20th century by prior socialists, to prove that socialism in all of it&#8217;s various hydra-like forms, cannot and will never work.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Saul, Barack, and Me, Part V by Reality seeker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reality seeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 02:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I agree that Alinsky did not accurately foresee the future; However, my view why is different. Like many men before and after him---who were/are both good and bad--- Saul failed to understand the muddle through theory. 

America somehow muddled through. Call it want ever you like:The Invisible Depression, short-term gain, an artificial economy or just call it luck, but the result is the same.  America somehow muddled through time and time again and people got to do what made them happy(i.e. buy the goodies and watch football.)

So lets cut to the chase and ask ourselves what happens when America is no longer able to muddle through? Lets say that you and I wake up one day sometime between 2010-2020 to a world that is collapsing with such uncontrolled ferociousness that nothing will stop it. Gone is the value of millions of 401ks and pensions. Zero is the value of Social Security. A pickup truck load of paper dollars won&#039;t buy an 8oz bottle of water or a head of lettuce. In short, Saul Alinsky&#039;s dream of the destruction of America comes true. What then? Will Saul Alinsky be just as wrong in his assumptions about what happens next, right after the collapse?

The answer is yes he will be. So will a lot of other men.  Anybody who thinks that once the muddling through stops, then we will have a Gandhi like revolution---which was not bloodless by the way--- and everything can be nonviolently worked out is living in more of a dream world than Saul Alinsky did.

Whom are these people that claim to know human nature? Currently, it is nonviolence that is worshiped. That will change. People will demand blood. Of course, right now most everyone is above that. &quot;Violence?&quot; they say, &quot;why how could anyone think of such a thing?&quot; 

People don&#039;t understand history. Saul didn&#039;t understand. There will come a time when millions are not only demanding violence be done to the bankers (banksters), brokers (brokesters), and all the other gangsters which include the political elite and the entire United Oligarchy of America, but there will come a time when people who you thought could never hurt a fly will be dripping with blood.

There is a power cycle. There is a business cycle. In fact, there are many cycles. The cycle that most people seem to have forgotten is the violence cycle. Study your history. We are still in the passive part of the cycle. 

Just as sure as the sun comes around full circle and rises, so will the mental posture of the masses shift and revolve back to violence as a means to an end.

By the way, as soon as I start to build confidence in men like Glenn Beck, they say something really ignorant. Today, Mr. Beck made the statement that we don&#039;t need leaders we just need teachers and that&#039;s how to solve America&#039;s problems. I wonder if Mr. Beck has ever killed anybody or anything in his entire life? I wonder if he really understands violence at the true visceral level? 

My favorite leader, Benjamin Franklin, was an Indian fighter. Violence was not what Mr. Franklin was best known for, and that&#039;s one reason why he&#039;s my favorite leader; However, Mr. Franklin&#039;s judgement as a leader, a teacher, an inventor, a philosopher, and a violent man could be trusted even though it was not perfect, because, as a man, he was the entire package. That&#039;s what we need more of today---not just teachers---but men who are the entire package. Franklin&#039;s example is timeless. 

WE NEED MEN AND WOMEN WHO CAN PICK UP THE TORCH THAT FRANKLIN LIT.

TO HELL WITH MEN LIKE SAUL ALINSKY.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I agree that Alinsky did not accurately foresee the future; However, my view why is different. Like many men before and after him&#8212;who were/are both good and bad&#8212; Saul failed to understand the muddle through theory. </p>
<p>America somehow muddled through. Call it want ever you like:The Invisible Depression, short-term gain, an artificial economy or just call it luck, but the result is the same.  America somehow muddled through time and time again and people got to do what made them happy(i.e. buy the goodies and watch football.)</p>
<p>So lets cut to the chase and ask ourselves what happens when America is no longer able to muddle through? Lets say that you and I wake up one day sometime between 2010-2020 to a world that is collapsing with such uncontrolled ferociousness that nothing will stop it. Gone is the value of millions of 401ks and pensions. Zero is the value of Social Security. A pickup truck load of paper dollars won&#8217;t buy an 8oz bottle of water or a head of lettuce. In short, Saul Alinsky&#8217;s dream of the destruction of America comes true. What then? Will Saul Alinsky be just as wrong in his assumptions about what happens next, right after the collapse?</p>
<p>The answer is yes he will be. So will a lot of other men.  Anybody who thinks that once the muddling through stops, then we will have a Gandhi like revolution&#8212;which was not bloodless by the way&#8212; and everything can be nonviolently worked out is living in more of a dream world than Saul Alinsky did.</p>
<p>Whom are these people that claim to know human nature? Currently, it is nonviolence that is worshiped. That will change. People will demand blood. Of course, right now most everyone is above that. &#8220;Violence?&#8221; they say, &#8220;why how could anyone think of such a thing?&#8221; </p>
<p>People don&#8217;t understand history. Saul didn&#8217;t understand. There will come a time when millions are not only demanding violence be done to the bankers (banksters), brokers (brokesters), and all the other gangsters which include the political elite and the entire United Oligarchy of America, but there will come a time when people who you thought could never hurt a fly will be dripping with blood.</p>
<p>There is a power cycle. There is a business cycle. In fact, there are many cycles. The cycle that most people seem to have forgotten is the violence cycle. Study your history. We are still in the passive part of the cycle. </p>
<p>Just as sure as the sun comes around full circle and rises, so will the mental posture of the masses shift and revolve back to violence as a means to an end.</p>
<p>By the way, as soon as I start to build confidence in men like Glenn Beck, they say something really ignorant. Today, Mr. Beck made the statement that we don&#8217;t need leaders we just need teachers and that&#8217;s how to solve America&#8217;s problems. I wonder if Mr. Beck has ever killed anybody or anything in his entire life? I wonder if he really understands violence at the true visceral level? </p>
<p>My favorite leader, Benjamin Franklin, was an Indian fighter. Violence was not what Mr. Franklin was best known for, and that&#8217;s one reason why he&#8217;s my favorite leader; However, Mr. Franklin&#8217;s judgement as a leader, a teacher, an inventor, a philosopher, and a violent man could be trusted even though it was not perfect, because, as a man, he was the entire package. That&#8217;s what we need more of today&#8212;not just teachers&#8212;but men who are the entire package. Franklin&#8217;s example is timeless. </p>
<p>WE NEED MEN AND WOMEN WHO CAN PICK UP THE TORCH THAT FRANKLIN LIT.</p>
<p>TO HELL WITH MEN LIKE SAUL ALINSKY.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Saul, Barack, and Me, Part V by DB</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 19:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert, 
Sadly I think what has been missed is the elegant doublespeak - while &quot;championing the poor&quot; (who I think we all sympathize with), BHO and his gang of thieves have presided over the largest looting of the wealth of the &quot;middle class&quot; to the benefit of the &quot;haves&quot;.  

Think about it for a moment, who has benefitted in the last year of this administration??  Insurance companies, the automotive unions, big banks, brokers, pharmaceutical and medical corporate interests, and no doubt their lawyers... all well heeled interests who have financially supported THEIR representatives in Washington for years, and this last year has been the big payoff/payback!!

While screaming about a crisis CREATED by failed management and policies of many of these same &quot;institutions&quot; (and our government/elected &quot;representatives&quot;), the wealth of GENERATIONS (past, present and FUTURE) of hard working Americans has been transferred in the form of &quot;taxpayer supported&quot; bailouts, handouts, pork dinners extrordinaire, and legislation that benefits ONLY the privileged few, NOT those &quot;poor&quot; (in fact you must consider that there are FAR more POOR barely scraping by, how have they benefitted?).

The geniuses in Washington have passed every bill that hands TAXPAYER money (meaning the proceeds of EVERY hard working American that can&#039;t afford a fancy tax attorney and ACTUALLY pays taxes, unlike the average political/corporate crony) to these big interests so they don&#039;t lose from their bad bets.  Everyone else has to tighten their belts (if they still have pants after the meltdown), but the big money interests have skated through, paying out bonuses and profiting on &quot;free money&quot;.  

This last year has not been &quot;Robin Hood robbing from the rich to give to the poor&quot;, but rather a &quot;different class of criminal&quot; (ref to 
&quot;the Joker&quot;) who has, while drunk with power and with NO accountability made sure that every campaign contribution and crony has been paid many times over on the backs of the American public, and America&#039;s future.

The one shining hope is that it has been SO blatant that even the blindest can see it... 

While your series on the &quot;history&quot; of the radical rhetoric is enlightening, I hope you will look beyond the rhetoric to the reality, THAT is where the high ground lies.  People don&#039;t like being ripped off (even the &quot;haves&quot; wish to avoid it!), and THAT is the message that needs to be broadcast.  

The town of Washington (and every other seat of government in this once great country) needs to be relieved of the &quot;different class of criminal&quot; by vote or pitchfork - THAT is change we all can believe in, if we just see the truth.

Historically speaking, I believe EVERY revolution begins when the privileged few become so jaded and arrogant that they become abusive of those who just wish to &quot;get along&quot; (anyone remember &quot;life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness&quot;??)... I don&#039;t know that this time can possibly be any different, but those of sound mind and stout heart MAY be able to turn it around - we must be certain our message is clear and not fall prey to the doublespeak...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert,<br />
Sadly I think what has been missed is the elegant doublespeak &#8211; while &#8220;championing the poor&#8221; (who I think we all sympathize with), BHO and his gang of thieves have presided over the largest looting of the wealth of the &#8220;middle class&#8221; to the benefit of the &#8220;haves&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Think about it for a moment, who has benefitted in the last year of this administration??  Insurance companies, the automotive unions, big banks, brokers, pharmaceutical and medical corporate interests, and no doubt their lawyers&#8230; all well heeled interests who have financially supported THEIR representatives in Washington for years, and this last year has been the big payoff/payback!!</p>
<p>While screaming about a crisis CREATED by failed management and policies of many of these same &#8220;institutions&#8221; (and our government/elected &#8220;representatives&#8221;), the wealth of GENERATIONS (past, present and FUTURE) of hard working Americans has been transferred in the form of &#8220;taxpayer supported&#8221; bailouts, handouts, pork dinners extrordinaire, and legislation that benefits ONLY the privileged few, NOT those &#8220;poor&#8221; (in fact you must consider that there are FAR more POOR barely scraping by, how have they benefitted?).</p>
<p>The geniuses in Washington have passed every bill that hands TAXPAYER money (meaning the proceeds of EVERY hard working American that can&#8217;t afford a fancy tax attorney and ACTUALLY pays taxes, unlike the average political/corporate crony) to these big interests so they don&#8217;t lose from their bad bets.  Everyone else has to tighten their belts (if they still have pants after the meltdown), but the big money interests have skated through, paying out bonuses and profiting on &#8220;free money&#8221;.  </p>
<p>This last year has not been &#8220;Robin Hood robbing from the rich to give to the poor&#8221;, but rather a &#8220;different class of criminal&#8221; (ref to<br />
&#8220;the Joker&#8221;) who has, while drunk with power and with NO accountability made sure that every campaign contribution and crony has been paid many times over on the backs of the American public, and America&#8217;s future.</p>
<p>The one shining hope is that it has been SO blatant that even the blindest can see it&#8230; </p>
<p>While your series on the &#8220;history&#8221; of the radical rhetoric is enlightening, I hope you will look beyond the rhetoric to the reality, THAT is where the high ground lies.  People don&#8217;t like being ripped off (even the &#8220;haves&#8221; wish to avoid it!), and THAT is the message that needs to be broadcast.  </p>
<p>The town of Washington (and every other seat of government in this once great country) needs to be relieved of the &#8220;different class of criminal&#8221; by vote or pitchfork &#8211; THAT is change we all can believe in, if we just see the truth.</p>
<p>Historically speaking, I believe EVERY revolution begins when the privileged few become so jaded and arrogant that they become abusive of those who just wish to &#8220;get along&#8221; (anyone remember &#8220;life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness&#8221;??)&#8230; I don&#8217;t know that this time can possibly be any different, but those of sound mind and stout heart MAY be able to turn it around &#8211; we must be certain our message is clear and not fall prey to the doublespeak&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Saul, Barack, and Me, Part V by Tacitus X</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tacitus X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 18:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alinsky&#039;s assessment is far from &quot;generally correct.&quot;  The &quot;economic status explains ideology&quot; line is a self-serving myth of the Left.  

The recent &quot;panty bomber&quot; comes from a very wealthy family.  Ditto for Osama bin Laden.  Ditto for many on the Left.  Karl Marx, Lenin, George Soros, Michael Moore, John Corzine, the Kennedys, &quot;you-pick-&#039;em&quot; in Hollywood, etc.  

The &quot;hardhats&quot; and &quot;silent majority&quot; in the Nixon era, the &quot;Moral Majority&quot; of the 1980&#039;s and the Tea Partiers now, are largely made up of working-class folks.  The 60&#039;s radicals were dominated by children of privilege.  

The truly destitute are (not surprisingly) usually apolitical, being concerned with survival rather than leisure-time pursuits like political ideology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alinsky&#8217;s assessment is far from &#8220;generally correct.&#8221;  The &#8220;economic status explains ideology&#8221; line is a self-serving myth of the Left.  </p>
<p>The recent &#8220;panty bomber&#8221; comes from a very wealthy family.  Ditto for Osama bin Laden.  Ditto for many on the Left.  Karl Marx, Lenin, George Soros, Michael Moore, John Corzine, the Kennedys, &#8220;you-pick-&#8217;em&#8221; in Hollywood, etc.  </p>
<p>The &#8220;hardhats&#8221; and &#8220;silent majority&#8221; in the Nixon era, the &#8220;Moral Majority&#8221; of the 1980&#8217;s and the Tea Partiers now, are largely made up of working-class folks.  The 60&#8217;s radicals were dominated by children of privilege.  </p>
<p>The truly destitute are (not surprisingly) usually apolitical, being concerned with survival rather than leisure-time pursuits like political ideology.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Saul, Barack, and Me, Part IV by gmhand28</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 19:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would just like to make it clear to people that the phrase &#039;promote the general welfare&#039; is in the preamble to the Constitution. In other words, a goal of the Constitution. This phrase is not a legal article, if you will, as are the following articles. The laws or articles that FOLLOW the preamble are the best way our founding fathers knew to promote the genral welfare. Put yet another way.  Adhering to the articles in the Constitution is the best way to promote the general welfare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would just like to make it clear to people that the phrase &#8216;promote the general welfare&#8217; is in the preamble to the Constitution. In other words, a goal of the Constitution. This phrase is not a legal article, if you will, as are the following articles. The laws or articles that FOLLOW the preamble are the best way our founding fathers knew to promote the genral welfare. Put yet another way.  Adhering to the articles in the Constitution is the best way to promote the general welfare.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Saul, Barack, and Me, Part IV by Reality seeker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reality seeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 02:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was a very well written blog. 

It is my opinion that Saul Alinsky understood precisely what he was doing. He understood the cycle of power, and he wanted to get whatever share of power that he could get. That&#039;s the bottom line of his motivation. (i.e. A big egoist filled with fatal conceit that wanted to acquire his own brand of power). 

It is very important to remember that there are/were some exceptions to this cycle of power. Ben Franklin was just one of the greatest of these exceptions that mankind will ever see. More about him in a minute.

I know this is a little off topic, but I&#039;d like to say that I miss Mr. Ringer&#039;s inspirational posts. Being the highly negative, pragmatic, and jaded
person that I am, inspiration is a very important factor in staying somewhat balanced in my outlook.

It is the start of a new year, and I&#039;d like to share some inspirational advice that has served me very well over the years. I&#039;m not into new years resolutions, but if I was then this would be it. It
has become my favorite motto.

&quot;Do something today for the person
that you will be five years from now.&quot;

This type of long term-thinking, when applied properly to matters of health, education, finance, and personal relationships, will pay you
out compound interest in long term happiness.

Speaking of long-term thinking, I&#039;d like to share one of my all time favorite true stories about Ben Franklin. In his will he left $4,500 to the city of Philadelphia with the stipulation that the money be
invested at 5% interest compounded annually for a term of one hundred years. At the end of the term, the principal would be nearly $600,000.00.

But the will, and Mr. Franklin&#039;s long term thinking, didn&#039;t stop there. At the end of one hundred years the city was not allowed to spend all the money. The city was required to reinvest $150,000 of the
money for another one hundred years. This $150,000 would now become almost $20,000,000.00.

I still remember the 200th anniversary of Franklin&#039;s death when the city of Philadelphia announced that it had only made two million instead of the twenty that it should have made. Franklin also gifted the city of Boston the same amount of money with identical terms.
Boston made five million.

One of the morals of the story is that long-term thinking has been negated by expedient politicians and the hoards of bureaucrats that have taken over the government in the last one hundred years.. The
people who run the government think so differently than the people who founded it. The people who founded our government wanted those living hundreds of years after their deaths to have a better future. Contrast that with those who currently run the government, and how they are stealing the future from us and those the future generations. Contrast that with Saul Alinsky (aka The Evil Genius) who came up with a modern blueprint to destroy America.

Personally, I don&#039;t see one politician out there---not even one---that comes anywhere near the greatness of men like Ben Franklin. We need a true American hero like Franklin. And we need him now. Currently, my opinion of Glenn Beck is rising. Since January 4, 2010 he has had a spot on message. Did you see his amazing commentary on Saul Alinsky? It&#039;s the best that I&#039;ve ever seen Mr. Beck perform. My respect for him is growing. He has common sense, now he needs the &quot;uncommon sense&quot; that F.A. Hayek so adroitly wrote about.  It is so imperative to educate people on the long-term benefits of our Constitution. I think that Mr. Beck is going to do a fine job in that regard in 2010. 

Specious short-term thinking is what destroys nations. (i.e.BHO, thinking) This destructive short-term thinking is now being executed worldwide on a massive scale that has never before been seen by man. And it&#039;s happening right now, before our very eyes.

Let&#039;s hope that someone like Ben Franklin appears to help lead the way during this historic era.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was a very well written blog. </p>
<p>It is my opinion that Saul Alinsky understood precisely what he was doing. He understood the cycle of power, and he wanted to get whatever share of power that he could get. That&#8217;s the bottom line of his motivation. (i.e. A big egoist filled with fatal conceit that wanted to acquire his own brand of power). </p>
<p>It is very important to remember that there are/were some exceptions to this cycle of power. Ben Franklin was just one of the greatest of these exceptions that mankind will ever see. More about him in a minute.</p>
<p>I know this is a little off topic, but I&#8217;d like to say that I miss Mr. Ringer&#8217;s inspirational posts. Being the highly negative, pragmatic, and jaded<br />
person that I am, inspiration is a very important factor in staying somewhat balanced in my outlook.</p>
<p>It is the start of a new year, and I&#8217;d like to share some inspirational advice that has served me very well over the years. I&#8217;m not into new years resolutions, but if I was then this would be it. It<br />
has become my favorite motto.</p>
<p>&#8220;Do something today for the person<br />
that you will be five years from now.&#8221;</p>
<p>This type of long term-thinking, when applied properly to matters of health, education, finance, and personal relationships, will pay you<br />
out compound interest in long term happiness.</p>
<p>Speaking of long-term thinking, I&#8217;d like to share one of my all time favorite true stories about Ben Franklin. In his will he left $4,500 to the city of Philadelphia with the stipulation that the money be<br />
invested at 5% interest compounded annually for a term of one hundred years. At the end of the term, the principal would be nearly $600,000.00.</p>
<p>But the will, and Mr. Franklin&#8217;s long term thinking, didn&#8217;t stop there. At the end of one hundred years the city was not allowed to spend all the money. The city was required to reinvest $150,000 of the<br />
money for another one hundred years. This $150,000 would now become almost $20,000,000.00.</p>
<p>I still remember the 200th anniversary of Franklin&#8217;s death when the city of Philadelphia announced that it had only made two million instead of the twenty that it should have made. Franklin also gifted the city of Boston the same amount of money with identical terms.<br />
Boston made five million.</p>
<p>One of the morals of the story is that long-term thinking has been negated by expedient politicians and the hoards of bureaucrats that have taken over the government in the last one hundred years.. The<br />
people who run the government think so differently than the people who founded it. The people who founded our government wanted those living hundreds of years after their deaths to have a better future. Contrast that with those who currently run the government, and how they are stealing the future from us and those the future generations. Contrast that with Saul Alinsky (aka The Evil Genius) who came up with a modern blueprint to destroy America.</p>
<p>Personally, I don&#8217;t see one politician out there&#8212;not even one&#8212;that comes anywhere near the greatness of men like Ben Franklin. We need a true American hero like Franklin. And we need him now. Currently, my opinion of Glenn Beck is rising. Since January 4, 2010 he has had a spot on message. Did you see his amazing commentary on Saul Alinsky? It&#8217;s the best that I&#8217;ve ever seen Mr. Beck perform. My respect for him is growing. He has common sense, now he needs the &#8220;uncommon sense&#8221; that F.A. Hayek so adroitly wrote about.  It is so imperative to educate people on the long-term benefits of our Constitution. I think that Mr. Beck is going to do a fine job in that regard in 2010. </p>
<p>Specious short-term thinking is what destroys nations. (i.e.BHO, thinking) This destructive short-term thinking is now being executed worldwide on a massive scale that has never before been seen by man. And it&#8217;s happening right now, before our very eyes.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s hope that someone like Ben Franklin appears to help lead the way during this historic era.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Saul, Barack, and Me, Part IV by Freedom News Blitz &#187; Revolution, Social Justice, Equality and Tyranny</title>
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		<title>Comment on Saul, Barack, and Me, Part IV by CommonSense</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 17:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article,
  But, one tiny little correction.  While the government behaves as if the Constitution gives it the right to &quot;provide the common welfare&quot;, it does not.  The preamble to our Constitution states as one of the reasons we americans established a constitution is to &quot;PROMOTE the general welfare&quot;.  Provide and promote have two entirely different meanings, and in any case the preamble is just that, it doesn&#039;t enumerate any rights or restrictions on the government, that is done in the articles.

The &quot;living document&quot; crowd makes these little word NUDGES all the time.  A good example is how this was done to the first amendment, and how the meaning was changed with THE ESTABLISHMENT CLAUSE.  The phrase &quot;make no laws respecting an establishment of religion&quot;, where &quot;establishment&quot; is a noun) has an entirely different meaning than &quot;make no laws respecting the establishment of religion&quot; where &quot;establishment&quot; is a verb.  A tiny little change can have enormous impact!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article,<br />
  But, one tiny little correction.  While the government behaves as if the Constitution gives it the right to &#8220;provide the common welfare&#8221;, it does not.  The preamble to our Constitution states as one of the reasons we americans established a constitution is to &#8220;PROMOTE the general welfare&#8221;.  Provide and promote have two entirely different meanings, and in any case the preamble is just that, it doesn&#8217;t enumerate any rights or restrictions on the government, that is done in the articles.</p>
<p>The &#8220;living document&#8221; crowd makes these little word NUDGES all the time.  A good example is how this was done to the first amendment, and how the meaning was changed with THE ESTABLISHMENT CLAUSE.  The phrase &#8220;make no laws respecting an establishment of religion&#8221;, where &#8220;establishment&#8221; is a noun) has an entirely different meaning than &#8220;make no laws respecting the establishment of religion&#8221; where &#8220;establishment&#8221; is a verb.  A tiny little change can have enormous impact!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Saul, Barack, and Me, Part IV by deusimplicitus</title>
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		<dc:creator>deusimplicitus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 17:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The liberals took power by hammering home the slogan &quot;Don&#039;t be judgmental&quot; which too many people accepted as being a compassionate way to live harmoniously in a free society. Nothing could be further from reality and the truth as being judgmental is how one survives every single day. It&#039;s the very essence of what constitutes failure from success and as dramatic as survival from extinction.

Being judgmental and being astute and sagacious enough to be able to define right from wrong, moral from immoral, ethical from unethical, and ground reality from psychotic/neurotic delusions, are the only foundational criteria that can save the United States from further decline and eventual Ouroboros-like implosion. 

   People need to agree on a valid and realistic set of real world values, based on historical experience and precedent, that applies to all politicians, regardless of what label they stick on their foreheads. 

   Both major parties are compromised and after we begin to clean house of the traitorous democrats in the next election, who are clearly the much greater threat to individualism and liberty, then we need to turn a more critical eye to the rotten and corrupted demagogues in the Republican party, who have not been representative of long established party values and who have been seduced and corrupted by the intoxicating effects of wealth and power.

   We are all allowing ourselves to be taxed into incremental servitude on all government levels (inclusive of local, state, and federal bodies of so called &quot;representatives&quot;). These governments are all implacably voracious when it comes to empowering themselves, and those of us who know better and recognize the danger are being unwillingly dragged into an Orwellian style government, along with the ignorant, uneducated, and short-sighted who either believe this Orwellian dystopia is actually beneficial to a society, or are too foolish to know what restrictive horrors, enslavement, and even death of which these governments subject ALL their citizens when politicians steal or are given the power, in their twisted and delusional minds, to play God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The liberals took power by hammering home the slogan &#8220;Don&#8217;t be judgmental&#8221; which too many people accepted as being a compassionate way to live harmoniously in a free society. Nothing could be further from reality and the truth as being judgmental is how one survives every single day. It&#8217;s the very essence of what constitutes failure from success and as dramatic as survival from extinction.</p>
<p>Being judgmental and being astute and sagacious enough to be able to define right from wrong, moral from immoral, ethical from unethical, and ground reality from psychotic/neurotic delusions, are the only foundational criteria that can save the United States from further decline and eventual Ouroboros-like implosion. </p>
<p>   People need to agree on a valid and realistic set of real world values, based on historical experience and precedent, that applies to all politicians, regardless of what label they stick on their foreheads. </p>
<p>   Both major parties are compromised and after we begin to clean house of the traitorous democrats in the next election, who are clearly the much greater threat to individualism and liberty, then we need to turn a more critical eye to the rotten and corrupted demagogues in the Republican party, who have not been representative of long established party values and who have been seduced and corrupted by the intoxicating effects of wealth and power.</p>
<p>   We are all allowing ourselves to be taxed into incremental servitude on all government levels (inclusive of local, state, and federal bodies of so called &#8220;representatives&#8221;). These governments are all implacably voracious when it comes to empowering themselves, and those of us who know better and recognize the danger are being unwillingly dragged into an Orwellian style government, along with the ignorant, uneducated, and short-sighted who either believe this Orwellian dystopia is actually beneficial to a society, or are too foolish to know what restrictive horrors, enslavement, and even death of which these governments subject ALL their citizens when politicians steal or are given the power, in their twisted and delusional minds, to play God.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Saul, Barack, and Me, Part I by Commander McBragg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Commander McBragg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 13:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose that BHO took the oath of office with the erroneous assumption that he was keeping the constitution-just as his followers claim to believe.  Imagine my own confusion upon my military enlistment oath to protect the constitution while obeying him as commander in chief.
One wonders about the morality of being in the military now days period.  Yet most of us know what would happen if we did not have a military.  The constitution would soon be moot.
I believe everyone has a soul.  Liberalism is all about humanism and about denial and avoidance of one&#039;s soul.  In fact it is all about denial of *any* premise at all-the soul being the premise and epitome of individualism, the constitution and especially the Declaration of Independence being the premise of our country, choice to be responsible and productive as the premise to survival success and penalty to criminal perpetrators *only* being the premise to financing/administering justice.  
The Bible describes a fool&#039;s soul-less practice to be &quot;Building a house on sand&quot;.  The common sense expressed in the Bible continues to amaze me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose that BHO took the oath of office with the erroneous assumption that he was keeping the constitution-just as his followers claim to believe.  Imagine my own confusion upon my military enlistment oath to protect the constitution while obeying him as commander in chief.<br />
One wonders about the morality of being in the military now days period.  Yet most of us know what would happen if we did not have a military.  The constitution would soon be moot.<br />
I believe everyone has a soul.  Liberalism is all about humanism and about denial and avoidance of one&#8217;s soul.  In fact it is all about denial of *any* premise at all-the soul being the premise and epitome of individualism, the constitution and especially the Declaration of Independence being the premise of our country, choice to be responsible and productive as the premise to survival success and penalty to criminal perpetrators *only* being the premise to financing/administering justice.<br />
The Bible describes a fool&#8217;s soul-less practice to be &#8220;Building a house on sand&#8221;.  The common sense expressed in the Bible continues to amaze me.</p>
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		<title>Comment on One Person at a Time by Commander McBragg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Commander McBragg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 00:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mean like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGO42gvCSPI  lol

Being career Army Reserves myself I can appreciate what you have to say.  My peers are always saying &quot;let&#039;s get the job done and over with&quot;.  It is politics that get in the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mean like this? <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGO42gvCSPI" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGO42gvCSPI</a>  lol</p>
<p>Being career Army Reserves myself I can appreciate what you have to say.  My peers are always saying &#8220;let&#8217;s get the job done and over with&#8221;.  It is politics that get in the way.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pardon My Flipness by Commander McBragg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Commander McBragg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 00:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kind of reminds me of the line, &quot;Winning Through Intimidation&quot;.  Misunderstood by many but the figure of speech is understood here.
You once wrote that General Patton had this attitude of driving full force toward the goal without distraction.  That was back in the days that we used to win wars.  That is, to whatever extent winning was possible in a war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kind of reminds me of the line, &#8220;Winning Through Intimidation&#8221;.  Misunderstood by many but the figure of speech is understood here.<br />
You once wrote that General Patton had this attitude of driving full force toward the goal without distraction.  That was back in the days that we used to win wars.  That is, to whatever extent winning was possible in a war.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Saul, Barack, and Me &#8211; Part III by teddyboy46</title>
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		<dc:creator>teddyboy46</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 16:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now this is the Robert Ringer that wrote Looking out for Number #1. Calm and rational, not a wild eyed right wing fanatic, by the way I am starting to agree with him on BHO. He talks like a working man but all his freinds ar emillionaires and he takes care of them first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now this is the Robert Ringer that wrote Looking out for Number #1. Calm and rational, not a wild eyed right wing fanatic, by the way I am starting to agree with him on BHO. He talks like a working man but all his freinds ar emillionaires and he takes care of them first.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Saul, Barack, and Me &#8211; Part III by Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 21:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In another life - too many years ago - I was a co-founding Pres. of a Chicago coomunity organization
that still exists today but with a different name and purpose. The organizers were with Alinsky&#039;s Industrial Areas Foundation. They were, mostly, middle class, businesslike, family men who acted with the blessing and sponsorship of the local religious leadership. Alinsky trained them not to &quot;create&quot; issues but to &quot;rub raw the sores of existing discontent&quot;, which in Chicago was the Daley &quot;machine.&quot; I heard Alinsky say more than once
that a community organization goes through 3 phases:
1. Idealistic commitment, 2. A business, and 3. A racket. I don&#039;t remember if he wrote it in &quot;Rules&quot; but when he spoke it he said with skepticism and melancholy. He was a complex, well meaning person who, in that time and place was anything but misguided. Today, History proves him wrong in many ways except in his commitment to empower the human person; which current events proves him right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In another life &#8211; too many years ago &#8211; I was a co-founding Pres. of a Chicago coomunity organization<br />
that still exists today but with a different name and purpose. The organizers were with Alinsky&#8217;s Industrial Areas Foundation. They were, mostly, middle class, businesslike, family men who acted with the blessing and sponsorship of the local religious leadership. Alinsky trained them not to &#8220;create&#8221; issues but to &#8220;rub raw the sores of existing discontent&#8221;, which in Chicago was the Daley &#8220;machine.&#8221; I heard Alinsky say more than once<br />
that a community organization goes through 3 phases:<br />
1. Idealistic commitment, 2. A business, and 3. A racket. I don&#8217;t remember if he wrote it in &#8220;Rules&#8221; but when he spoke it he said with skepticism and melancholy. He was a complex, well meaning person who, in that time and place was anything but misguided. Today, History proves him wrong in many ways except in his commitment to empower the human person; which current events proves him right.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Saul, Barack, and Me &#8211; Part III by robspe</title>
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		<dc:creator>robspe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 20:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Alinsky - and many others - fail to realize is that a &quot;People&quot; is not just anyone who happens to be around or who just sneaked in under the fence.  Only a society of men with shared values can form a government that works for the whole people, not just for itself or a favored group.  Even - or especially - the leaders have to work for the whole.  And every man has to work for every other man and the whole.  &quot;Diversity&quot; in values is death for a society.  And even those who manage to get rich can never relax until they find a society that includes them as a working contributor, a truly productive man.  Remember, the bees kill the drones after they contribute their only product, their genes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Alinsky &#8211; and many others &#8211; fail to realize is that a &#8220;People&#8221; is not just anyone who happens to be around or who just sneaked in under the fence.  Only a society of men with shared values can form a government that works for the whole people, not just for itself or a favored group.  Even &#8211; or especially &#8211; the leaders have to work for the whole.  And every man has to work for every other man and the whole.  &#8220;Diversity&#8221; in values is death for a society.  And even those who manage to get rich can never relax until they find a society that includes them as a working contributor, a truly productive man.  Remember, the bees kill the drones after they contribute their only product, their genes.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Saul, Barack, and Me &#8211; Part III by Paul Anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 18:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is in the nature of Man to resist change. Most would prefer to grumble about their plight, rather than do something to change it. Hence, the need for the &quot;rabble-rouser&quot;, for it is only when emotions are roused that most people will act. It is also true that few will take action unilaterally, but too many will react in concert with a group. (Unfortunately, that often results in a mob mentality) In order to create a group through which the meek can feel powerful, we need &quot;community organizers&quot;. 

The difference between the two terms is determined by the observer. The Romans thought Jesus was a rabble-rouser, but his followers would have no doubt preferred the term, &quot;community organizer&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is in the nature of Man to resist change. Most would prefer to grumble about their plight, rather than do something to change it. Hence, the need for the &#8220;rabble-rouser&#8221;, for it is only when emotions are roused that most people will act. It is also true that few will take action unilaterally, but too many will react in concert with a group. (Unfortunately, that often results in a mob mentality) In order to create a group through which the meek can feel powerful, we need &#8220;community organizers&#8221;. </p>
<p>The difference between the two terms is determined by the observer. The Romans thought Jesus was a rabble-rouser, but his followers would have no doubt preferred the term, &#8220;community organizer&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Saul, Barack, and Me &#8211; Part III by Reality seeker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reality seeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 16:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The most effective means are whatever will achieve the desired results.&quot; ....Saul Alinsky.

Saul&#039;s above statement reminds me of the cunning calculations of Joseph Stalin and Vladimir Lenin. And that&#039;s not the only statement: I could fill an entire page with his evil thoughts. Was Saul really misunderstood? &quot;Did [he]have a soul? Let&#039;s dig a little deeper. 

The following paragraph was taken from David Horowitz Freedom Center: &quot;Alinsky studied criminology as a graduate student at the University of Chicago, during which time he became friendly with Al Capone and his mobsters. Ryan Lizza, senior editor of The New Republic, offers a glimpse into Alinsky&#039;s personality: &#039;Charming and self-absorbed, Alinsky would entertain friends with stories -- some true, many embellished -- from his mob days for decades afterward. He was profane, outspoken, and narcissistic, always the center of attention despite his tweedy, academic look and thick, horn-rimmed glasses.&#039;&quot;

Don&#039;t be a fool that&#039;s fooled by Alinsky&#039;s euphemisms in his book &quot;Rules for Radicals.&quot; Saul Alinsky(aka professor Moriarty) was an archenemy of Liberty, and he wanted to ruin America then just as much as Osama Bin Laden does right now. The goal of these types of evil geniuses is the same, but it is just the means that are somewhat different. Why I&#039;d sooner sit down and have lunch with Al Capone, than with Alinsky. All this nonsense about him having a &quot;soul&quot; is the result of some important facts that have escaped somebody&#039;s notice.

Even Jesus himself warned about evildoers that express love for their families. Just because Saul encourages laughter and love does not mean that he has a soul. The mob goes to church and hypocritically presents itself as something that it&#039;s not. Ditto with Alinsky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The most effective means are whatever will achieve the desired results.&#8221; &#8230;.Saul Alinsky.</p>
<p>Saul&#8217;s above statement reminds me of the cunning calculations of Joseph Stalin and Vladimir Lenin. And that&#8217;s not the only statement: I could fill an entire page with his evil thoughts. Was Saul really misunderstood? &#8220;Did [he]have a soul? Let&#8217;s dig a little deeper. </p>
<p>The following paragraph was taken from David Horowitz Freedom Center: &#8220;Alinsky studied criminology as a graduate student at the University of Chicago, during which time he became friendly with Al Capone and his mobsters. Ryan Lizza, senior editor of The New Republic, offers a glimpse into Alinsky&#8217;s personality: &#8216;Charming and self-absorbed, Alinsky would entertain friends with stories &#8212; some true, many embellished &#8212; from his mob days for decades afterward. He was profane, outspoken, and narcissistic, always the center of attention despite his tweedy, academic look and thick, horn-rimmed glasses.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t be a fool that&#8217;s fooled by Alinsky&#8217;s euphemisms in his book &#8220;Rules for Radicals.&#8221; Saul Alinsky(aka professor Moriarty) was an archenemy of Liberty, and he wanted to ruin America then just as much as Osama Bin Laden does right now. The goal of these types of evil geniuses is the same, but it is just the means that are somewhat different. Why I&#8217;d sooner sit down and have lunch with Al Capone, than with Alinsky. All this nonsense about him having a &#8220;soul&#8221; is the result of some important facts that have escaped somebody&#8217;s notice.</p>
<p>Even Jesus himself warned about evildoers that express love for their families. Just because Saul encourages laughter and love does not mean that he has a soul. The mob goes to church and hypocritically presents itself as something that it&#8217;s not. Ditto with Alinsky.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Saul, Barack, and Me &#8211; Part III by kwallin</title>
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		<dc:creator>kwallin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 15:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert,

Excellent article. I so appreciate the effort you go to in order to write these very clear articles. I have read each to gather a clearer understanding of why our President is who he is. It is clear he is infected by the Alinsky writings, unfortunately he did not get the infusion of the understanding of what is good within this system. Like Sir Winston churchill noted this is not the best system of government, but it is far ahead of whatever is in second place. BHO would do well to understand this sentiment from an outsider.

Ken
http://www.linkedin.com/in/kmwallin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert,</p>
<p>Excellent article. I so appreciate the effort you go to in order to write these very clear articles. I have read each to gather a clearer understanding of why our President is who he is. It is clear he is infected by the Alinsky writings, unfortunately he did not get the infusion of the understanding of what is good within this system. Like Sir Winston churchill noted this is not the best system of government, but it is far ahead of whatever is in second place. BHO would do well to understand this sentiment from an outsider.</p>
<p>Ken<br />
<a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/kmwallin" rel="nofollow">http://www.linkedin.com/in/kmwallin</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Saul, Barack, and Me &#8211; Part III by deusimplicitus</title>
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		<dc:creator>deusimplicitus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 15:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Allow me to quote another radical who understood and  succinctly summed up the quandary with any society or nation that allows their government to become their masters....

&quot;Meet the new boss....same as the old boss.&quot;

Agitators and radicals come and go. Always malcontents with the the status quo, no matter on which side of the political spectrum their sympathies lie. 

Nature is self correcting. Human nature,and it&#039;s aberrant ego driven mis-perception of the way the world SHOULD BE, is dysfunctional. Radicals and agitators who try to remake the world in their idealistic fantasy of what the world should be, have been the cause of million upon millions of innocent deaths since the beginning of recorded history.

There is no such thing as a &quot;perfect society&quot; as we are all imperfect creatures driven by irrational emotions and egotistical ideals based upon unrealistic
expectations of what constitutes justice and fairness.  


The human race has not evolved far enough yet to overcome our own inherent human nature weaknesses. The only hope we have is that we do not destroy ourselves first, before we acknowledge this and then begin to think and act accordingly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allow me to quote another radical who understood and  succinctly summed up the quandary with any society or nation that allows their government to become their masters&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8220;Meet the new boss&#8230;.same as the old boss.&#8221;</p>
<p>Agitators and radicals come and go. Always malcontents with the the status quo, no matter on which side of the political spectrum their sympathies lie. </p>
<p>Nature is self correcting. Human nature,and it&#8217;s aberrant ego driven mis-perception of the way the world SHOULD BE, is dysfunctional. Radicals and agitators who try to remake the world in their idealistic fantasy of what the world should be, have been the cause of million upon millions of innocent deaths since the beginning of recorded history.</p>
<p>There is no such thing as a &#8220;perfect society&#8221; as we are all imperfect creatures driven by irrational emotions and egotistical ideals based upon unrealistic<br />
expectations of what constitutes justice and fairness.  </p>
<p>The human race has not evolved far enough yet to overcome our own inherent human nature weaknesses. The only hope we have is that we do not destroy ourselves first, before we acknowledge this and then begin to think and act accordingly.</p>
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		<title>Comment on When the Truth Hurts by Davidmbrowndotcom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davidmbrowndotcom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 03:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The hooligans in D.C. know that all they need to do is get their foot in the door with a new bill, then, through their own arbitrary interpretation, have it evolve into what they want it to be....&quot; Truer words were never spoken. Nobody should be counting on commie Dems in the House to revolt against this because the bill doesn&#039;t thieve and maul enough in its present form or any conferenced version. The only hope is getting enough congressional candidates in 2010 and 2012 to run on a campaign of repealing whatever mess gets passed. As well, Obama must get kicked out in 2012 by someone who won&#039;t veto the repeal.

Teddyboy46 is a smear artist, although without much artistry. Why would Ringer support &quot;profits for the pharmaceutical industry&quot; at &quot;any cost&quot;? The remark is dishonest. There is no conceivable basis for it. Ringer supports honest profit-making in a free-market context, not profit--or looting--at the point of a gun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The hooligans in D.C. know that all they need to do is get their foot in the door with a new bill, then, through their own arbitrary interpretation, have it evolve into what they want it to be&#8230;.&#8221; Truer words were never spoken. Nobody should be counting on commie Dems in the House to revolt against this because the bill doesn&#8217;t thieve and maul enough in its present form or any conferenced version. The only hope is getting enough congressional candidates in 2010 and 2012 to run on a campaign of repealing whatever mess gets passed. As well, Obama must get kicked out in 2012 by someone who won&#8217;t veto the repeal.</p>
<p>Teddyboy46 is a smear artist, although without much artistry. Why would Ringer support &#8220;profits for the pharmaceutical industry&#8221; at &#8220;any cost&#8221;? The remark is dishonest. There is no conceivable basis for it. Ringer supports honest profit-making in a free-market context, not profit&#8211;or looting&#8211;at the point of a gun.</p>
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		<title>Comment on When the Truth Hurts by Reality seeker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reality seeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Moderator, I made an error in the first submission. Please substitute this one in place of it. Thank you

Dear Mr. Steve W,

Excuse me please, but I so often hear or read someone making the same type of shallow argument that you make. You are not a capitalist, not even close, if you believe in big government healthcare. I suggest that you educate yourself by reading some of Mr. Ringers books, and then rethink your position. 

For all those who think like Mr. W. I&#039;m reposting part of something that I posted almost a year ago on this very blog. By the way, I was born in the USA, but I also have a UK citizenship; however, that doesn&#039;t mean I know any better than the next man about socialized medicine. Reason and experience are more powerful than a birth right. And reason and experience are what really matters most when making an evaluation on healthcare or any issue regarding the poor. 

True story: Once upon a time while I was living in Asia, I happened to be spending some time on the Cambodian border when I pondered an idea I call &quot;Some people will breed themselves into poverty no matter how much of anything you give them theory.&quot; After giving food, cloths, fresh water, medicine, and money directly to numerous starving children ( whom I truly felt sorry for) and their families, I started to think deeply about what caused their plight and how I might help with the underlying cause. In my investigations, what I found was that bad government, war, climate, and poor economic conditions were not the main cause of so many children starving to death. After living with one of those poor families for nearly three months and learning about their perspective, I came to the conclusion that the main cause of so much of the rampant poverty was mainly due to a man and his wife[or his wives] breeding themselves and their offspring into starvation. ( i.e having wagon-loads of children with little or no resources to raise them.) 

Moreover, no matter how much time, effort, and money that I spent in attempting to help, it did not, and would not, really solve the long term problem. The people themselves( how they thought and acted) were the main problem, and they simply did not want to change their foolish breeding habits or educate themselves.

Later, I traveled around the world and witnessed more abject poverty; then by chance I read the works of English political economist and demographer Thomas R Malthus which caused me to refine my view even further. 

Now, I have come to firmly believe that if America gave all it&#039;s wealth to the Third World, then they would just turn around and squander it---and simply breed themselves right back into poverty. 
The theory can be applied right here in American. No matter how much you give, they will simply breed themselves( and you, if you let them) right back into poverty. Over the years this theory has been refined into the &quot; charity from government, group, or individual tends to fertilize the problem rather than solve it theory.&quot; America the beautiful has become America the enabler of welfare cases.
I can&#039;t begin to tell you how many starving children I&#039;ve in my travels. Sometimes I still give, but mainly I just walk on by. Education is the key, if they would only listen. I focus my charitable donations on education now.

In conclusion, I truly believe that Americans should have been preparing themselves for a rainy economic day. Those who can&#039;t feed their children should not expect the government to coerce me or anyone else into transferring money into their pockets. All such transfers should be voluntary even if the life of a child is at stake. If someone is unemployed and I decide to help, then fine, but don&#039;t force me. I&#039;m the &quot;Decider.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Moderator, I made an error in the first submission. Please substitute this one in place of it. Thank you</p>
<p>Dear Mr. Steve W,</p>
<p>Excuse me please, but I so often hear or read someone making the same type of shallow argument that you make. You are not a capitalist, not even close, if you believe in big government healthcare. I suggest that you educate yourself by reading some of Mr. Ringers books, and then rethink your position. </p>
<p>For all those who think like Mr. W. I&#8217;m reposting part of something that I posted almost a year ago on this very blog. By the way, I was born in the USA, but I also have a UK citizenship; however, that doesn&#8217;t mean I know any better than the next man about socialized medicine. Reason and experience are more powerful than a birth right. And reason and experience are what really matters most when making an evaluation on healthcare or any issue regarding the poor. </p>
<p>True story: Once upon a time while I was living in Asia, I happened to be spending some time on the Cambodian border when I pondered an idea I call &#8220;Some people will breed themselves into poverty no matter how much of anything you give them theory.&#8221; After giving food, cloths, fresh water, medicine, and money directly to numerous starving children ( whom I truly felt sorry for) and their families, I started to think deeply about what caused their plight and how I might help with the underlying cause. In my investigations, what I found was that bad government, war, climate, and poor economic conditions were not the main cause of so many children starving to death. After living with one of those poor families for nearly three months and learning about their perspective, I came to the conclusion that the main cause of so much of the rampant poverty was mainly due to a man and his wife[or his wives] breeding themselves and their offspring into starvation. ( i.e having wagon-loads of children with little or no resources to raise them.) </p>
<p>Moreover, no matter how much time, effort, and money that I spent in attempting to help, it did not, and would not, really solve the long term problem. The people themselves( how they thought and acted) were the main problem, and they simply did not want to change their foolish breeding habits or educate themselves.</p>
<p>Later, I traveled around the world and witnessed more abject poverty; then by chance I read the works of English political economist and demographer Thomas R Malthus which caused me to refine my view even further. </p>
<p>Now, I have come to firmly believe that if America gave all it&#8217;s wealth to the Third World, then they would just turn around and squander it&#8212;and simply breed themselves right back into poverty.<br />
The theory can be applied right here in American. No matter how much you give, they will simply breed themselves( and you, if you let them) right back into poverty. Over the years this theory has been refined into the &#8221; charity from government, group, or individual tends to fertilize the problem rather than solve it theory.&#8221; America the beautiful has become America the enabler of welfare cases.<br />
I can&#8217;t begin to tell you how many starving children I&#8217;ve in my travels. Sometimes I still give, but mainly I just walk on by. Education is the key, if they would only listen. I focus my charitable donations on education now.</p>
<p>In conclusion, I truly believe that Americans should have been preparing themselves for a rainy economic day. Those who can&#8217;t feed their children should not expect the government to coerce me or anyone else into transferring money into their pockets. All such transfers should be voluntary even if the life of a child is at stake. If someone is unemployed and I decide to help, then fine, but don&#8217;t force me. I&#8217;m the &#8220;Decider.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on When the Truth Hurts by teddyboy46</title>
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		<dc:creator>teddyboy46</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is truth that is going to hurt the feelings of all the conservatives and liberials. This Bill was written By and For the Health insurance and Pharmasutical Idustries. everyone is getting scrwed on this one.

I am surprised I assumed Mr. Ringer would be happy that these two industries were making profit, at any cost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is truth that is going to hurt the feelings of all the conservatives and liberials. This Bill was written By and For the Health insurance and Pharmasutical Idustries. everyone is getting scrwed on this one.</p>
<p>I am surprised I assumed Mr. Ringer would be happy that these two industries were making profit, at any cost.</p>
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		<title>Comment on When the Truth Hurts by walchsee</title>
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		<dc:creator>walchsee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Repeated Government largesse by its very nature is designed to addict the receiver which leads to dependency and a sure vote for more.

What is happening today is a grab for power in broad day light.  It has nothing to do with giving the people better health care. That is the excuse or emergency to ram the bill through without reading it all. Government knows exactly what they are doing; they are not that stupid or they shouldn&#039;t be there in the first place.

Washington is full of politicians but lacking statesmen. Who is defending the constitution anymore?  Where do these politicians get the power to betray the very people who are paying their salaries?  Where are the attornies to sue Congress for their misdeads? Where is the class action law suit defending the future of this country? This reeks like FRAUD committed onto the people of the United States by pretending that this entitlement  will bring costs down and improve health care when the facts prove the opposite. Be aware of the enemy within!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Repeated Government largesse by its very nature is designed to addict the receiver which leads to dependency and a sure vote for more.</p>
<p>What is happening today is a grab for power in broad day light.  It has nothing to do with giving the people better health care. That is the excuse or emergency to ram the bill through without reading it all. Government knows exactly what they are doing; they are not that stupid or they shouldn&#8217;t be there in the first place.</p>
<p>Washington is full of politicians but lacking statesmen. Who is defending the constitution anymore?  Where do these politicians get the power to betray the very people who are paying their salaries?  Where are the attornies to sue Congress for their misdeads? Where is the class action law suit defending the future of this country? This reeks like FRAUD committed onto the people of the United States by pretending that this entitlement  will bring costs down and improve health care when the facts prove the opposite. Be aware of the enemy within!</p>
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		<title>Comment on When the Truth Hurts by Steve W</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert,

While I&#039;m a capitalist through and through, and believe a smaller government is best, I cannot agree with anyone not having access to Health care.

Living in the UK, our National Health Service is far from perfect, but I&#039;ve also travelled to much poorer countries and it&#039;s shocking to see people suffer because of not being able to pay for medical help.

And living, as we do, in the richest countries in the world (we&#039;re all millionaires compared to 95% of the world&#039;s population) how can we deny anyone basic help ?

Bottomline, it&#039;s inhuman.

And although I&#039;ve been a lifelong opponent of taxes, I&#039;d much rather pay a bit more than to see people suffer.

Yes, I&#039;m sure there&#039;s ways to be smarter in the detail of the health care plans, and helping people to help themselves (maybe via loans etc) is much better than giving.

Besides, healthy people can contribute more.

All the best,

Steve W</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert,</p>
<p>While I&#8217;m a capitalist through and through, and believe a smaller government is best, I cannot agree with anyone not having access to Health care.</p>
<p>Living in the UK, our National Health Service is far from perfect, but I&#8217;ve also travelled to much poorer countries and it&#8217;s shocking to see people suffer because of not being able to pay for medical help.</p>
<p>And living, as we do, in the richest countries in the world (we&#8217;re all millionaires compared to 95% of the world&#8217;s population) how can we deny anyone basic help ?</p>
<p>Bottomline, it&#8217;s inhuman.</p>
<p>And although I&#8217;ve been a lifelong opponent of taxes, I&#8217;d much rather pay a bit more than to see people suffer.</p>
<p>Yes, I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s ways to be smarter in the detail of the health care plans, and helping people to help themselves (maybe via loans etc) is much better than giving.</p>
<p>Besides, healthy people can contribute more.</p>
<p>All the best,</p>
<p>Steve W</p>
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		<title>Comment on When the Truth Hurts by Robert Kelsey</title>
		<link>http://blog.robertringer.com/2009/12/29/when-the-truth-hurts/comment-page-1/#comment-1503</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Kelsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently was reading a history of what happened to the economy of Argentina in the 20th century, as politicians tried to ignore the laws of reality and spend money they did not have to provide goodies in order to be re-elected.  We are following in the very same path and it is not unlikely we will see the same results.  Unfortunately, it does not seem that the people in Argentina have learned from their experiences.  So, too, it seems very unlikely that the people here will learn.  What is one to do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently was reading a history of what happened to the economy of Argentina in the 20th century, as politicians tried to ignore the laws of reality and spend money they did not have to provide goodies in order to be re-elected.  We are following in the very same path and it is not unlikely we will see the same results.  Unfortunately, it does not seem that the people in Argentina have learned from their experiences.  So, too, it seems very unlikely that the people here will learn.  What is one to do?</p>
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		<title>Comment on When the Truth Hurts by deusimplicitus</title>
		<link>http://blog.robertringer.com/2009/12/29/when-the-truth-hurts/comment-page-1/#comment-1502</link>
		<dc:creator>deusimplicitus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The entire scenario described, reminds me of the Monty Python sketch of Dennis Moore...the highwayman.
Initially he starts out stealing lupins (flowers) to give to the &quot;poor&quot; but as they receive more and more &quot;freebies&quot; from the well meaning &quot;Robin Hood&quot;-like character exemplified by Dennis Moore, these so called &quot;poor&quot; peasants become more and more demanding of better and better &quot;freebies&quot; (of course at the expense and theft from others....

&lt;B&gt;
Dennis Moore, Dennis Moore
Etcetera, etcetera...


(He leaps off his horse and runs to the door of the hut, throws the door open and enters. The little hut is now stuffed with all possible signs of wealth and all imaginable treasures.)

Male Peasant:
What you got for us today then.

Dennis Moore:
Well I&#039;ve managed to find you four very nice
silver spoons Mr Jenkins.

Male Peasant:
(snatching them rudely.)
Who do you think you are giving us poor this rubbish?

Female Peasant:
Bloody silver. Won&#039;t have it in the house.
(throws it away)
And those candlesticks you got us last week were only sixteen carat.

Male Peasant:
Yes, why don&#039;t you go out and steal something nice like some Venetian silver.

Female Peasant:
Or a Velasquez for the outside loo.

Dennis Moore:
Oh all right. (turns purposefully)&lt;/B&gt;

Where does it all end when the government starts to determine what is &quot;fair&quot; and tries to impose some sort of economic equality in it&#039;s various forms, on all of the citizens in the society. Politicians have an invested interest...to get elected. Giving out freebies to people who do not want to work hard for their means of support, has always been a very slippery slope in undermining the overall work ethic of a country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The entire scenario described, reminds me of the Monty Python sketch of Dennis Moore&#8230;the highwayman.<br />
Initially he starts out stealing lupins (flowers) to give to the &#8220;poor&#8221; but as they receive more and more &#8220;freebies&#8221; from the well meaning &#8220;Robin Hood&#8221;-like character exemplified by Dennis Moore, these so called &#8220;poor&#8221; peasants become more and more demanding of better and better &#8220;freebies&#8221; (of course at the expense and theft from others&#8230;.</p>
<p><b><br />
Dennis Moore, Dennis Moore<br />
Etcetera, etcetera&#8230;</p>
<p>(He leaps off his horse and runs to the door of the hut, throws the door open and enters. The little hut is now stuffed with all possible signs of wealth and all imaginable treasures.)</p>
<p>Male Peasant:<br />
What you got for us today then.</p>
<p>Dennis Moore:<br />
Well I&#8217;ve managed to find you four very nice<br />
silver spoons Mr Jenkins.</p>
<p>Male Peasant:<br />
(snatching them rudely.)<br />
Who do you think you are giving us poor this rubbish?</p>
<p>Female Peasant:<br />
Bloody silver. Won&#8217;t have it in the house.<br />
(throws it away)<br />
And those candlesticks you got us last week were only sixteen carat.</p>
<p>Male Peasant:<br />
Yes, why don&#8217;t you go out and steal something nice like some Venetian silver.</p>
<p>Female Peasant:<br />
Or a Velasquez for the outside loo.</p>
<p>Dennis Moore:<br />
Oh all right. (turns purposefully)</b></p>
<p>Where does it all end when the government starts to determine what is &#8220;fair&#8221; and tries to impose some sort of economic equality in it&#8217;s various forms, on all of the citizens in the society. Politicians have an invested interest&#8230;to get elected. Giving out freebies to people who do not want to work hard for their means of support, has always been a very slippery slope in undermining the overall work ethic of a country.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 2010: The Year of Reckoning, Part II by deusimplicitus</title>
		<link>http://blog.robertringer.com/2009/12/26/2010-the-year-of-reckoning-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-1501</link>
		<dc:creator>deusimplicitus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 06:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Robert,
I am not as optimistic as you in having faith that most people can even realize that extreme danger that the country is in at present. As you point out, most people are &quot;out to lunch&quot; when it comes to taking the constant chipping away of our liberties seriously. They are too complacent and virtually sedated by the toys, entertainments, and distractions of modern life. 
I&#039;ve come to believe that in order to understand the real gravity of our current situation, the mass media and any information being provided by the government, has to be ignored. That information is compromised and more propagandistic in nature, that factual.
The democrats are outright thieves and liars, yet they can still convince many people to vote for them. The Republicans have become liars and when elected, most fail to stick to the values of the party, and instead fall on the sword of whichever leader of the party is calling the shots.
Either way, we have no true representation
anymore among those elected to represent us.

Many vote Republican, not because they believe the Republicans rhetoric anymore, but simply because these voters despise the Democrats, as the Democrats are becoming more easily recognized to the average thinking individual as the fast track party to communism and every individual&#039;s eventual involuntary servitude to our own government.
  
Again, either way in the extrapolated outcome of where we are going as a nation, we will lose with just the choices of the current two major political parties.

A viable and uncorrupted third party is the ONLY option that be used as a challenge to the death grip that the corrupted and  soiled Republican and Democratic parties hold on our future.
 
If more people would declare openly what is obvious to most of us, which is that the major two U.S. political parties are too far gone to salvage, and declare &quot;none of the above&quot; when offered only those two options, then there is a chance of slowing down the decline and perhaps even reversing the current U.S. slide into the obscurity trap that whereas many of our historic predecessors can actually claim they &quot;didn&#039;t know any better&quot;. We would not have that right. 

We have the advantage of possibly correcting our present social, economic, cultural, and political decline by the lessons of those before us. We can see ourselves in their fatal complacency to take remedial action, and by their now acknowledged examples of decay and collapse. These negative dynamics can easily be recognized in our own present course and if not addressed and amended, we will all suffer the inevitable negative consequences. 

Prosperity and stability can never be maintained over time by the threat of bayonets. The need for survival urges one to attempt to just survive, but under that spirit numbing condition, there is no urge for most, to attempt to thrive. 

We need to be proactive in stemming the current tide and not reactive, after all our present  options are squandered. Educate and intellectually confront, if need be, your tranced out family, friends, and neighbors .........while that option is still available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Robert,<br />
I am not as optimistic as you in having faith that most people can even realize that extreme danger that the country is in at present. As you point out, most people are &#8220;out to lunch&#8221; when it comes to taking the constant chipping away of our liberties seriously. They are too complacent and virtually sedated by the toys, entertainments, and distractions of modern life.<br />
I&#8217;ve come to believe that in order to understand the real gravity of our current situation, the mass media and any information being provided by the government, has to be ignored. That information is compromised and more propagandistic in nature, that factual.<br />
The democrats are outright thieves and liars, yet they can still convince many people to vote for them. The Republicans have become liars and when elected, most fail to stick to the values of the party, and instead fall on the sword of whichever leader of the party is calling the shots.<br />
Either way, we have no true representation<br />
anymore among those elected to represent us.</p>
<p>Many vote Republican, not because they believe the Republicans rhetoric anymore, but simply because these voters despise the Democrats, as the Democrats are becoming more easily recognized to the average thinking individual as the fast track party to communism and every individual&#8217;s eventual involuntary servitude to our own government.</p>
<p>Again, either way in the extrapolated outcome of where we are going as a nation, we will lose with just the choices of the current two major political parties.</p>
<p>A viable and uncorrupted third party is the ONLY option that be used as a challenge to the death grip that the corrupted and  soiled Republican and Democratic parties hold on our future.</p>
<p>If more people would declare openly what is obvious to most of us, which is that the major two U.S. political parties are too far gone to salvage, and declare &#8220;none of the above&#8221; when offered only those two options, then there is a chance of slowing down the decline and perhaps even reversing the current U.S. slide into the obscurity trap that whereas many of our historic predecessors can actually claim they &#8220;didn&#8217;t know any better&#8221;. We would not have that right. </p>
<p>We have the advantage of possibly correcting our present social, economic, cultural, and political decline by the lessons of those before us. We can see ourselves in their fatal complacency to take remedial action, and by their now acknowledged examples of decay and collapse. These negative dynamics can easily be recognized in our own present course and if not addressed and amended, we will all suffer the inevitable negative consequences. </p>
<p>Prosperity and stability can never be maintained over time by the threat of bayonets. The need for survival urges one to attempt to just survive, but under that spirit numbing condition, there is no urge for most, to attempt to thrive. </p>
<p>We need to be proactive in stemming the current tide and not reactive, after all our present  options are squandered. Educate and intellectually confront, if need be, your tranced out family, friends, and neighbors &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;while that option is still available.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 2010: The Year of Reckoning, Part II by Commander McBragg</title>
		<link>http://blog.robertringer.com/2009/12/26/2010-the-year-of-reckoning-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-1500</link>
		<dc:creator>Commander McBragg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 21:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting point about &quot;sports crazy&quot;.  It seems our country has a lot of parallels to the decline of the Roman empire.  Romans were crazed over the circus maximus and suffered inflation and fought in many wars outside of their borders.
People who have followed Robert&#039;s philosophies over the years have always been a step ahead of the so-called conservative movement.  It would almost seem like America has been late to it&#039;s own funeral while we were on time.
Conservatives are now preaching &quot;own gold&quot; like many of us were years ago.  I have personally changed my mind about gold and feel the conservatives are still somewhat deluded with false hopes about our country&#039;s future freedom.  A brief study of history reveals that gold has been illegal to own in the past-indeed when we were in fact more like a free country than today.  Buy it now and you will have a heck of a time spending it when the crash comes.  It&#039;ll probably be illegal to own again.  I suggest silver or better yet copper, food, or more practical and less obvious forms of wealth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting point about &#8220;sports crazy&#8221;.  It seems our country has a lot of parallels to the decline of the Roman empire.  Romans were crazed over the circus maximus and suffered inflation and fought in many wars outside of their borders.<br />
People who have followed Robert&#8217;s philosophies over the years have always been a step ahead of the so-called conservative movement.  It would almost seem like America has been late to it&#8217;s own funeral while we were on time.<br />
Conservatives are now preaching &#8220;own gold&#8221; like many of us were years ago.  I have personally changed my mind about gold and feel the conservatives are still somewhat deluded with false hopes about our country&#8217;s future freedom.  A brief study of history reveals that gold has been illegal to own in the past-indeed when we were in fact more like a free country than today.  Buy it now and you will have a heck of a time spending it when the crash comes.  It&#8217;ll probably be illegal to own again.  I suggest silver or better yet copper, food, or more practical and less obvious forms of wealth.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 2010: The Year of Reckoning, Part II by arms merchant</title>
		<link>http://blog.robertringer.com/2009/12/26/2010-the-year-of-reckoning-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-1499</link>
		<dc:creator>arms merchant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Paul Anthony that &quot;conservative Republicans&quot; will not be the answer--they never cease to disappoint because politics has become a game of goodies for votes, and big government enables the game. Yet, third parties are at a huge disadvantage in terms of entrenched infrastructure, organization, and fund raising ability.

The solution is for libertarians of all stripes to mount an insurgency (a la Reagan) in the primaries and caucuses and take over one of the two main parties. Since the Republicans are in opposition and still in somewhat disarray, the GOP is by far the most likely candidate. 

Once the libertarian wing is ascendant, the party must immediately be re-branded as the Liberty Party or Freedom Party (maybe even the Tea Party) to disassociate itself from failed Republican policies and expand appeal among youth and minorities. We will need a dynamic leader to lead charge and rally the troops afterward, toward 2012.

Reagan failed to roll back the welfare state, but he was faced with a Democratic Congress. It will take unbelievably deft leadership and PR to reassure Americans as various federal goodies are phased out. 

We must neutralize the power of the leftist media, Hollywood,and public and university education systems to neutralize all the &quot;horror stories&quot; after a Libertarian victory. We need start making now, as Mark Steyn said, the &quot;long march through the institutions&quot; as the left did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Paul Anthony that &#8220;conservative Republicans&#8221; will not be the answer&#8211;they never cease to disappoint because politics has become a game of goodies for votes, and big government enables the game. Yet, third parties are at a huge disadvantage in terms of entrenched infrastructure, organization, and fund raising ability.</p>
<p>The solution is for libertarians of all stripes to mount an insurgency (a la Reagan) in the primaries and caucuses and take over one of the two main parties. Since the Republicans are in opposition and still in somewhat disarray, the GOP is by far the most likely candidate. </p>
<p>Once the libertarian wing is ascendant, the party must immediately be re-branded as the Liberty Party or Freedom Party (maybe even the Tea Party) to disassociate itself from failed Republican policies and expand appeal among youth and minorities. We will need a dynamic leader to lead charge and rally the troops afterward, toward 2012.</p>
<p>Reagan failed to roll back the welfare state, but he was faced with a Democratic Congress. It will take unbelievably deft leadership and PR to reassure Americans as various federal goodies are phased out. </p>
<p>We must neutralize the power of the leftist media, Hollywood,and public and university education systems to neutralize all the &#8220;horror stories&#8221; after a Libertarian victory. We need start making now, as Mark Steyn said, the &#8220;long march through the institutions&#8221; as the left did.</p>
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		<dc:creator>teddyboy46</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 14:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Ringer is correct in his predictions but wrong about the cure. What Mr. Ringer fails to understand is that the Federal goverment has been slowly enslaving the American public since WW2. Using propganda and fear and it goes way beyond the Republican and Democrats parties.That is just the theater used to distract the public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Ringer is correct in his predictions but wrong about the cure. What Mr. Ringer fails to understand is that the Federal goverment has been slowly enslaving the American public since WW2. Using propganda and fear and it goes way beyond the Republican and Democrats parties.That is just the theater used to distract the public.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 2010: The Year of Reckoning, Part II by Paul Anthony</title>
		<link>http://blog.robertringer.com/2009/12/26/2010-the-year-of-reckoning-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-1496</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 22:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert, you are correct (of course) in your dire predictions. I am only confused by your undying - and unwarranted - faith in The Republican Party as our salvation. The Grand Ole Party has had ample opportunities to live up to its name, but while it talks the talk, it walks like the Democrats!

Everything you say we need to do has been suggested by the Libertarian Party. We need to provide it the support it needs to overcome the widely held belief that we can only have two parties. Both &quot;major&quot; parties have proven themselves unworthy of our support.

Sure, maybe the Libertarians will disappoint us once they get a taste of the power DC offers, but we must give them a chance, rather than condemn them before they&#039;ve had that chance.

The people are ready for a third party. A recent Rasmussen poll demonstrated that. In a three-way &quot;generic ballot&quot; in which respondents were asked to support a party - not an individual - in a congressional race, the Democrat got 36% of the vote, compared to 18% for the Republican, and 23% for the Tea Party candidate. 22% were undecided.

Although I am dismayed that the Democrat got 36%, I am encouraged by the poll because, if you add the 23% the Tea Party received to the 22% that were undecided, you have a near-majority! (Please note the Republican finished dead last).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert, you are correct (of course) in your dire predictions. I am only confused by your undying &#8211; and unwarranted &#8211; faith in The Republican Party as our salvation. The Grand Ole Party has had ample opportunities to live up to its name, but while it talks the talk, it walks like the Democrats!</p>
<p>Everything you say we need to do has been suggested by the Libertarian Party. We need to provide it the support it needs to overcome the widely held belief that we can only have two parties. Both &#8220;major&#8221; parties have proven themselves unworthy of our support.</p>
<p>Sure, maybe the Libertarians will disappoint us once they get a taste of the power DC offers, but we must give them a chance, rather than condemn them before they&#8217;ve had that chance.</p>
<p>The people are ready for a third party. A recent Rasmussen poll demonstrated that. In a three-way &#8220;generic ballot&#8221; in which respondents were asked to support a party &#8211; not an individual &#8211; in a congressional race, the Democrat got 36% of the vote, compared to 18% for the Republican, and 23% for the Tea Party candidate. 22% were undecided.</p>
<p>Although I am dismayed that the Democrat got 36%, I am encouraged by the poll because, if you add the 23% the Tea Party received to the 22% that were undecided, you have a near-majority! (Please note the Republican finished dead last).</p>
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		<title>Comment on 2010: The Year of Reckoning, Part II by Robert Bonter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Bonter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 21:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Groucho Marxist would be proud.</description>
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		<title>Comment on 2010: The Year of Reckoning, Part II by Tex Norton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tex Norton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 21:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps you haven&#039;t noticed, Robert, that &quot;limited government&quot; never stays limited. So electing what currently passes for conservatives doesn&#039;t solve the problem.

Why don&#039;t you try watching the DVD-set on Civilization Engineering that I sent to you a couple of years ago - you know, the set that you told me you were &quot;too busy&quot; to watch at that time. Rather that continue to joust windmills, try learning the real solution to the government coercion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps you haven&#8217;t noticed, Robert, that &#8220;limited government&#8221; never stays limited. So electing what currently passes for conservatives doesn&#8217;t solve the problem.</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t you try watching the DVD-set on Civilization Engineering that I sent to you a couple of years ago &#8211; you know, the set that you told me you were &#8220;too busy&#8221; to watch at that time. Rather that continue to joust windmills, try learning the real solution to the government coercion.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 2010: The Year of Reckoning, Part II by dbrusiee</title>
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		<dc:creator>dbrusiee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 19:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that this article is &quot;right on&quot; I am sorry to say. What really bothers me is that there aze dozens of books written that support these predictions but very few articles on the Internet.  Hmmm.  Oh by the way I no longer believe any of the governement reports on anything icluding unemployment, housing, health care etc. They are all filled with numerous lies.   Cheers   /DaveB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that this article is &#8220;right on&#8221; I am sorry to say. What really bothers me is that there aze dozens of books written that support these predictions but very few articles on the Internet.  Hmmm.  Oh by the way I no longer believe any of the governement reports on anything icluding unemployment, housing, health care etc. They are all filled with numerous lies.   Cheers   /DaveB</p>
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		<title>Comment on 2010: The Year of Reckoning, Part II by sweatypalms</title>
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		<dc:creator>sweatypalms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 18:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not as easy as a Republican Congress &quot;repealing&quot; all the socialist legislation. Any legislation has to be signed by the President. If he vetoes it, the veto may be overriden only by a 2/3 vote of each chamber of Congress, so the Republicans/Conservatives would have to have a 2/3 majority in both the House and the Senate, a practical impossibility. So, in reality, we will have to wait until 2012 and the hope of a Republican/Conservative President with a Republican/Conservative Congress with a filibuster-proof Senate (60 votes, which would be a 20 vote swing from today), or rely on a fair judiciary to throw out unconstitutional laws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not as easy as a Republican Congress &#8220;repealing&#8221; all the socialist legislation. Any legislation has to be signed by the President. If he vetoes it, the veto may be overriden only by a 2/3 vote of each chamber of Congress, so the Republicans/Conservatives would have to have a 2/3 majority in both the House and the Senate, a practical impossibility. So, in reality, we will have to wait until 2012 and the hope of a Republican/Conservative President with a Republican/Conservative Congress with a filibuster-proof Senate (60 votes, which would be a 20 vote swing from today), or rely on a fair judiciary to throw out unconstitutional laws.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 2010: The Year of Reckoning, Part II by TerryBrock</title>
		<link>http://blog.robertringer.com/2009/12/26/2010-the-year-of-reckoning-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-1491</link>
		<dc:creator>TerryBrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 18:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great points, Robert!  Thank you for writing this issue.  I read (and followed) what you wrote in the 80&#039;s.  I just think you were ahead of your time then.

Now?  It is a genuine &quot;ouch&quot; time. However, I have a question as one who has followed you since the mid 70&#039;s and love what you advocate.  

Do you really believe we can persuade the masses of entertainment-crazed myrmidons to think for themselves?  In a democracy (read &quot;mobocracy&quot;) they might think for a nano-second but then quickly default to what their &quot;leaders&quot; are promising them.  

Frankly, I don&#039;t think that education will work.  Instead, what practical, specific steps can we take to &quot;Go Galt&quot; in the midst of the fire burning, the blood running in the streets and people going crazy?  

They will blame the problems not on the ego-filled rulers in power but on the producers.  We producers might need to &quot;Go Galt&quot; sooner than later.  It&#039;s not like the rulers are going to give us a time table for total martial law and confiscation of all assets.  

What say you, Robert Ringer?  This is from a die-hard follower of yours for many years who respects you greatly and listens to what you have to say.  Thank you!  Terry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great points, Robert!  Thank you for writing this issue.  I read (and followed) what you wrote in the 80&#8217;s.  I just think you were ahead of your time then.</p>
<p>Now?  It is a genuine &#8220;ouch&#8221; time. However, I have a question as one who has followed you since the mid 70&#8217;s and love what you advocate.  </p>
<p>Do you really believe we can persuade the masses of entertainment-crazed myrmidons to think for themselves?  In a democracy (read &#8220;mobocracy&#8221;) they might think for a nano-second but then quickly default to what their &#8220;leaders&#8221; are promising them.  </p>
<p>Frankly, I don&#8217;t think that education will work.  Instead, what practical, specific steps can we take to &#8220;Go Galt&#8221; in the midst of the fire burning, the blood running in the streets and people going crazy?  </p>
<p>They will blame the problems not on the ego-filled rulers in power but on the producers.  We producers might need to &#8220;Go Galt&#8221; sooner than later.  It&#8217;s not like the rulers are going to give us a time table for total martial law and confiscation of all assets.  </p>
<p>What say you, Robert Ringer?  This is from a die-hard follower of yours for many years who respects you greatly and listens to what you have to say.  Thank you!  Terry</p>
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		<title>Comment on 2010: The Year of Reckoning, Part II by LadyD</title>
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		<dc:creator>LadyD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 18:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And a Happy New Year to all!!! Even though I feel you MAY be just a little on the extreme side, I do believe you are correct in the concept. God help us!</description>
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		<title>Comment on 2010: The Year of Reckoning, Part II by Reality seeker</title>
		<link>http://blog.robertringer.com/2009/12/26/2010-the-year-of-reckoning-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-1489</link>
		<dc:creator>Reality seeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 17:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In general, I agree with Mr. Ringer&#039;s well qualified and balanced assessment. I think he makes a significant statement when he says that he could be wrong on his prognosis.

If you take Mr. Ringer&#039;s thesis of total collapse in 2010 and broaden the time frame to a range of 2010-2020, then the likelihood of the system completely breaking down to the point of revolution and civil war increases parabolically upward. In other words, the chances of 2010 being the single year in which the BIG COLLAPSE happens is much less likely than it happening sometime within the next ten years. And that&#039;s how I&#039;m planning for it to happen----long-term. That doesn&#039;t mean, however, that I won&#039;t be ready for it to happen this year, because I will.

I don&#039;t believe that the Republicans will ever implement the type of changes that Mr. Ringer so correctly recommends; therefore, the only real solution is a new party that has a wide appeal to the young. After all, when the shooting starts---and it will start when America unravels--- the young will be the ones out on the streets getting bloody while most of the old are home hiding under their beds. This new party that I&#039;m talking about, it will be baptized in blood just like the Founding Fathers were.

Unless the young experience severe pain, there is no way in which to motivate a vast number of them to leave off playing their video games and get interested in a new party. And, in turn, create the kind of uprising that is necessary to destroy the socialists and restore their future. When the electric is finally shut off and there is no beer left in the refrigerator and no more weed left to smoke, then look out, because change is certain to happen. The only question remains is: who will win the hearts and minds of the young?

This brings me to something I want to say to everybody. If you&#039;re not a lifetime member or haven&#039;t joined the NRA, then please, please, if you do nothing else to secure America&#039;s future, then at least support the NRA in it&#039;s fight to keep the guns in our hands. 

Yes, by all means, lets use reason and logic to educate people(especially the young) and hope and pray that it will be enough. But lets also have a plan B. 

I think you know what plan B is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In general, I agree with Mr. Ringer&#8217;s well qualified and balanced assessment. I think he makes a significant statement when he says that he could be wrong on his prognosis.</p>
<p>If you take Mr. Ringer&#8217;s thesis of total collapse in 2010 and broaden the time frame to a range of 2010-2020, then the likelihood of the system completely breaking down to the point of revolution and civil war increases parabolically upward. In other words, the chances of 2010 being the single year in which the BIG COLLAPSE happens is much less likely than it happening sometime within the next ten years. And that&#8217;s how I&#8217;m planning for it to happen&#8212;-long-term. That doesn&#8217;t mean, however, that I won&#8217;t be ready for it to happen this year, because I will.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe that the Republicans will ever implement the type of changes that Mr. Ringer so correctly recommends; therefore, the only real solution is a new party that has a wide appeal to the young. After all, when the shooting starts&#8212;and it will start when America unravels&#8212; the young will be the ones out on the streets getting bloody while most of the old are home hiding under their beds. This new party that I&#8217;m talking about, it will be baptized in blood just like the Founding Fathers were.</p>
<p>Unless the young experience severe pain, there is no way in which to motivate a vast number of them to leave off playing their video games and get interested in a new party. And, in turn, create the kind of uprising that is necessary to destroy the socialists and restore their future. When the electric is finally shut off and there is no beer left in the refrigerator and no more weed left to smoke, then look out, because change is certain to happen. The only question remains is: who will win the hearts and minds of the young?</p>
<p>This brings me to something I want to say to everybody. If you&#8217;re not a lifetime member or haven&#8217;t joined the NRA, then please, please, if you do nothing else to secure America&#8217;s future, then at least support the NRA in it&#8217;s fight to keep the guns in our hands. </p>
<p>Yes, by all means, lets use reason and logic to educate people(especially the young) and hope and pray that it will be enough. But lets also have a plan B. </p>
<p>I think you know what plan B is.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 2010: The Year of Reckoning, Part I by GonzoTim</title>
		<link>http://blog.robertringer.com/2009/12/23/2010-the-year-of-reckoning-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-1488</link>
		<dc:creator>GonzoTim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 15:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Ringer,
I have been reading your wisdom for many years (I was introduced to your first book in High School) and while I agree with many of your viewpoints, I believe that your views on the possible suspension of the 2010 election (or 2012) are missing a key point.
If a group of government officials planned a terrorist attack or the total collapse of the economy, they would have to understand that if this was ever discovered the only justice that they would receive would be the justice of the grave.  I believe that discovery of such an action would only be a matter of time.  Once discovered, the only thing that could prevent armed violence against these officials would be the military.  And the military would likely just stand by and watch if they did not participate.  Additionally, if the plotters were part of single party, that party would be destroyed in the eyes of most voters forever. 
That does not mean that I disagree with your view that the goal of the current administration is a socialist United States.  However, the strategy you paint as a possibility is too high risk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Ringer,<br />
I have been reading your wisdom for many years (I was introduced to your first book in High School) and while I agree with many of your viewpoints, I believe that your views on the possible suspension of the 2010 election (or 2012) are missing a key point.<br />
If a group of government officials planned a terrorist attack or the total collapse of the economy, they would have to understand that if this was ever discovered the only justice that they would receive would be the justice of the grave.  I believe that discovery of such an action would only be a matter of time.  Once discovered, the only thing that could prevent armed violence against these officials would be the military.  And the military would likely just stand by and watch if they did not participate.  Additionally, if the plotters were part of single party, that party would be destroyed in the eyes of most voters forever.<br />
That does not mean that I disagree with your view that the goal of the current administration is a socialist United States.  However, the strategy you paint as a possibility is too high risk.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 2010: The Year of Reckoning, Part I by Tom D.</title>
		<link>http://blog.robertringer.com/2009/12/23/2010-the-year-of-reckoning-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-1487</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 07:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d love someone to recite to Obama the famous &quot;My Creed&quot; (below) by American Statesman Dean Alfange (1899-1989) in an interview, and ask Obama his opinion of Alfange&#039;s words!  

&quot;My Creed&quot; by Dean Alfange

&quot;I do not choose to be a common man. It is my right to be uncommon. I seek opportunity to develop whatever talents God gave me -- not security. I do not wish to be a kept citizen, humbled and dulled by having the state look after me. I want to take the calculated risk; to dream and to build, to fail and to succeed. I refuse to barter incentive for a dole. I prefer the challenges of life to the guaranteed existence; the thrill of fulfillment to the stale calm of utopia. I will not trade freedom for beneficence nor my dignity for a handout. I will never cower before any earthly master nor bend to any threat. It is my heritage to stand erect, proud and unafraid; to think and act myself, enjoy the benefit of my creations and to face the world boldly and say -- `This, with God&#039;s help, I have done.&#039; All this is what it means to be an American.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d love someone to recite to Obama the famous &#8220;My Creed&#8221; (below) by American Statesman Dean Alfange (1899-1989) in an interview, and ask Obama his opinion of Alfange&#8217;s words!  </p>
<p>&#8220;My Creed&#8221; by Dean Alfange</p>
<p>&#8220;I do not choose to be a common man. It is my right to be uncommon. I seek opportunity to develop whatever talents God gave me &#8212; not security. I do not wish to be a kept citizen, humbled and dulled by having the state look after me. I want to take the calculated risk; to dream and to build, to fail and to succeed. I refuse to barter incentive for a dole. I prefer the challenges of life to the guaranteed existence; the thrill of fulfillment to the stale calm of utopia. I will not trade freedom for beneficence nor my dignity for a handout. I will never cower before any earthly master nor bend to any threat. It is my heritage to stand erect, proud and unafraid; to think and act myself, enjoy the benefit of my creations and to face the world boldly and say &#8212; `This, with God&#8217;s help, I have done.&#8217; All this is what it means to be an American.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on 2010: The Year of Reckoning, Part I by Reality seeker</title>
		<link>http://blog.robertringer.com/2009/12/23/2010-the-year-of-reckoning-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-1486</link>
		<dc:creator>Reality seeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 23:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once again  Mr. Ringer puts forth a thought provoking argument that&#039;s difficult to refute. Moreover he&#039;s not alone in his Paul Revere cries of &quot;Socialism is coming socialism is coming.&quot; Many of us already understand that socialism is coming, but fewer seem to grasp that the Republicans are jointly responsible. And the way in which the great Republican leader Johnny Boy McCain babbles on about funding Medicare/Medicaid and all the other socialist programs that he likes, I don&#039;t think that Saul Alinsky himself could have found a better ally. I vote that we make Johnny Boy McCain an honorary community organizer.

Although I can&#039;t bring myself into total agreement with Mr. Ringer that 2010 is the likely year when American Socialism finally becomes fully fledged, and the symbol of the eagle gets replaced with a big, black vulture; I can say with total conviction that I agree with him that a showdown between socialism and liberty is coming. I say it&#039;s just before all the baby-boomers finish retiring, but it could happen by 2012. 

Beware of underestimating how America can muddle through. At times, it might seem like that this is it, the big one, and that civil war is upon us; But don&#039;t bet the farm either way because it is entirely plausible that, once again, America can muddle through. Great men and women such as Ludwig von Mises, F.A. Hayek, and Ayn Rand all underestimated at one time or another the power of America being able to muddle through. Having said that, I am personally doing something that I never have done before; I&#039;m moving to my secure location and making my final preparations for the big one. This will be done in a balanced way without losing the proper prospective. If nothing momentous happens, then I&#039;ll take no real loss. I would highly recommend that if anybody has not made some basic preparation that they should do at least a bare minimum now. Even just a small amount of silver, bullets, and other durable/tradable items would be good to have around and far better than nothing.

Mr. Ringer has been the lone voice in the wilderness crying a warning of the coming &quot;state of emergency&quot; before 2012 and during which time the socialists will make their move. I hope people say tuned to this blog, as there is no doubt in my mind that Mr. Ringer will be the first to make the call when it happens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again  Mr. Ringer puts forth a thought provoking argument that&#8217;s difficult to refute. Moreover he&#8217;s not alone in his Paul Revere cries of &#8220;Socialism is coming socialism is coming.&#8221; Many of us already understand that socialism is coming, but fewer seem to grasp that the Republicans are jointly responsible. And the way in which the great Republican leader Johnny Boy McCain babbles on about funding Medicare/Medicaid and all the other socialist programs that he likes, I don&#8217;t think that Saul Alinsky himself could have found a better ally. I vote that we make Johnny Boy McCain an honorary community organizer.</p>
<p>Although I can&#8217;t bring myself into total agreement with Mr. Ringer that 2010 is the likely year when American Socialism finally becomes fully fledged, and the symbol of the eagle gets replaced with a big, black vulture; I can say with total conviction that I agree with him that a showdown between socialism and liberty is coming. I say it&#8217;s just before all the baby-boomers finish retiring, but it could happen by 2012. </p>
<p>Beware of underestimating how America can muddle through. At times, it might seem like that this is it, the big one, and that civil war is upon us; But don&#8217;t bet the farm either way because it is entirely plausible that, once again, America can muddle through. Great men and women such as Ludwig von Mises, F.A. Hayek, and Ayn Rand all underestimated at one time or another the power of America being able to muddle through. Having said that, I am personally doing something that I never have done before; I&#8217;m moving to my secure location and making my final preparations for the big one. This will be done in a balanced way without losing the proper prospective. If nothing momentous happens, then I&#8217;ll take no real loss. I would highly recommend that if anybody has not made some basic preparation that they should do at least a bare minimum now. Even just a small amount of silver, bullets, and other durable/tradable items would be good to have around and far better than nothing.</p>
<p>Mr. Ringer has been the lone voice in the wilderness crying a warning of the coming &#8220;state of emergency&#8221; before 2012 and during which time the socialists will make their move. I hope people say tuned to this blog, as there is no doubt in my mind that Mr. Ringer will be the first to make the call when it happens.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 2010: The Year of Reckoning, Part I by Robert Bonter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Bonter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 17:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh God, our gold was stolen in 1933, under the pretext of emergency depresson conditions so necessitating, and here we go, again.  Well I am out of gold and into Euro Dollars, knowing how the vultures at the top are salivating over the  prospect destroying the U.S. Dollar for their excessive enrichment and lecherous empowerment. 

 All currencies will not tank when the U.S. Dollar goes the way of the dinosaur, or at least is devalued, by a  100-1 ratio.  Yes, the Yen and the Swiss Franc and the Scandinavian currencies will take a massive hit, but the Euro Dollar, NZ Kiwi, British Pound, and the Australian Dollar will appreciate, exponentially, given their track record of moving inversely from the direction of the U.S. Dollar.

 How many millions of working Americans are &quot;positioned&quot; to allow the government to expropriate - again - their gold, or devalue their currency, whichever comes first? 

Forget complaining about the havoc being wreaked upon us by  Washington Plutocrats - it is high time for prudent people to bail out of U.S. Dollar-denominated time bomb savings and investments.  I did, and I sleep well at night, not really caring about the storm clouds gathering on our horizon.  How about you, safe haven strategies in place, or Wizard of Oz myopic optimism as regards the Economic Apocalypse at our doorstep?  The hour of decision is nearly at hand, whereby it will soon  be too late to bail out.  If they were still around, we could ask the German people who burned their own worthless currency in the fireplace to keep warm, circa the winter of 1923, because it bought no bread or milk at any store, what governmental profligacy is like?  Learn from history or die from ignorance. It should not even be a choice to be deliberated in these perilous times.

Rob Bonter    Port Leyden, NY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh God, our gold was stolen in 1933, under the pretext of emergency depresson conditions so necessitating, and here we go, again.  Well I am out of gold and into Euro Dollars, knowing how the vultures at the top are salivating over the  prospect destroying the U.S. Dollar for their excessive enrichment and lecherous empowerment. </p>
<p> All currencies will not tank when the U.S. Dollar goes the way of the dinosaur, or at least is devalued, by a  100-1 ratio.  Yes, the Yen and the Swiss Franc and the Scandinavian currencies will take a massive hit, but the Euro Dollar, NZ Kiwi, British Pound, and the Australian Dollar will appreciate, exponentially, given their track record of moving inversely from the direction of the U.S. Dollar.</p>
<p> How many millions of working Americans are &#8220;positioned&#8221; to allow the government to expropriate &#8211; again &#8211; their gold, or devalue their currency, whichever comes first? </p>
<p>Forget complaining about the havoc being wreaked upon us by  Washington Plutocrats &#8211; it is high time for prudent people to bail out of U.S. Dollar-denominated time bomb savings and investments.  I did, and I sleep well at night, not really caring about the storm clouds gathering on our horizon.  How about you, safe haven strategies in place, or Wizard of Oz myopic optimism as regards the Economic Apocalypse at our doorstep?  The hour of decision is nearly at hand, whereby it will soon  be too late to bail out.  If they were still around, we could ask the German people who burned their own worthless currency in the fireplace to keep warm, circa the winter of 1923, because it bought no bread or milk at any store, what governmental profligacy is like?  Learn from history or die from ignorance. It should not even be a choice to be deliberated in these perilous times.</p>
<p>Rob Bonter    Port Leyden, NY</p>
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		<title>Comment on 2010: The Year of Reckoning, Part I by deusimplicitus</title>
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		<dc:creator>deusimplicitus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 16:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pivotal and trenchant question regarding which direction the country is going to go is, have Americans been so brainwashed as to believe that they are entitled to almost anything, including the things they did not &lt;I&gt;EARN&lt;/I&gt; by their own efforts and by the sweat of their own brows?! I&#039;m afraid that too many Americans have been seduced by liberals to believe that life is fair, everyone deserves everything they want, and that being judgmental of other people is somehow morally wrong. 
With that entrenched and cancerous mindset now filling the heads and value system of too many Americans, who take these now established &quot;standards&quot; as the status quo, we are in for a very tumultuous period in American politics. Wants are unlimited. Resources are not, regardless of the fact that Uncle Santa Sam wants to keep the printing presses going around the clock to keep most Americans buying the illusion of prosperity without self discipline and hard work. The problem the liberals face is that they have to quickly consolidated power and enact long term punitive legislation BEFORE more people wake up from their somnambulistic illusion, and realize they&#039;ve been played and lied to. 

The clock is ticking and 2010 is going to be a very interesting year that will define whether the U.S. will cross the Rubicon and plunge headlong into Socialism, or shake off the effects of the eaten lotus fruit of mass media propagandizing and the demagoguery of the current crop of political sophists, or realize that we&#039;ve been incrementally led astray and are in serious need of a period of house cleaning and trash removal.

We are only, as a nation, entitled only to what we earn. We are going to have to work hard to change the current course, and restore some enforceable accountability and Constitutional controls over those we elect to represent us. If we don&#039;t like the upcoming offered candidates and choices, a viable 3rd part, such as &#039;The Tea Party&#039;, would be  a serious consideration for those of us who can no longer hold our noses and vote for the perceived &quot;lesser of two evils&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The pivotal and trenchant question regarding which direction the country is going to go is, have Americans been so brainwashed as to believe that they are entitled to almost anything, including the things they did not <i>EARN</i> by their own efforts and by the sweat of their own brows?! I&#8217;m afraid that too many Americans have been seduced by liberals to believe that life is fair, everyone deserves everything they want, and that being judgmental of other people is somehow morally wrong.<br />
With that entrenched and cancerous mindset now filling the heads and value system of too many Americans, who take these now established &#8220;standards&#8221; as the status quo, we are in for a very tumultuous period in American politics. Wants are unlimited. Resources are not, regardless of the fact that Uncle Santa Sam wants to keep the printing presses going around the clock to keep most Americans buying the illusion of prosperity without self discipline and hard work. The problem the liberals face is that they have to quickly consolidated power and enact long term punitive legislation BEFORE more people wake up from their somnambulistic illusion, and realize they&#8217;ve been played and lied to. </p>
<p>The clock is ticking and 2010 is going to be a very interesting year that will define whether the U.S. will cross the Rubicon and plunge headlong into Socialism, or shake off the effects of the eaten lotus fruit of mass media propagandizing and the demagoguery of the current crop of political sophists, or realize that we&#8217;ve been incrementally led astray and are in serious need of a period of house cleaning and trash removal.</p>
<p>We are only, as a nation, entitled only to what we earn. We are going to have to work hard to change the current course, and restore some enforceable accountability and Constitutional controls over those we elect to represent us. If we don&#8217;t like the upcoming offered candidates and choices, a viable 3rd part, such as &#8216;The Tea Party&#8217;, would be  a serious consideration for those of us who can no longer hold our noses and vote for the perceived &#8220;lesser of two evils&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Saul, Barack, and Me, Part II by BAWTEXASPATRIOT</title>
		<link>http://blog.robertringer.com/2009/12/19/saul-barack-and-me-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-1472</link>
		<dc:creator>BAWTEXASPATRIOT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 17:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Outstanding essay by Robert Ringer. I really do believe that many people are coming to the same conclusion. The lie behind BHO, like Man Made Climate Change (MMCC) is being revealed. 

Note that as Ringer regards Alinsky, I similarly view BHO. I find him to be a brilliant and masterful politician. I believe he is a loving father and husband who is doing what he feels is best. Even though we are diametrically opposed politically, I see him as interesting in many ways. If this were merely an academic discussion, I have long felt that a theoretical debate with BHO would be similar to that described by Ringer in his discussion of Alinsky. 

Not surprisingly, Team Obama cloaked BHO in Conservatism or at least a middle of the road illusion to get him elected President. Note that most on the left campaign to the center because they know the independents are largely conservative right of center. But at least BHO was honest enough to let his true message slip out. If you were listening, he is only doing as POTUS, what he said he would do as a candidate. Obama, like most Socialists, sees himself as the keeper of the truth who knows better what we all need than we each do individually. As much as I disagree, I am happy to have that debate any day on a level playing field. My beef is more with the co-conspirators, The Left, as I describe below, who have all but destroyed the idea of a free and fair press as keepers of the truth.

&quot;The Left&quot; (generic term for main stream media, pop culture and academia) attacks with a relentless fierce determination to demonize any nay-sayers of their message and especially their most current icons, BHO and MMCC. Detractors are labeled as conspiracy theorist red-neck loons and &quot;flat-earthers&quot; respectively. The two greatest lies of our generation and perhaps of civilization (BHO and MMCC) are being revealed, as part of the true conspiracy. I believe the ultimate goal of  modern Socialists, as supported by The Left, is the implementation of Alinsky&#039;s &quot;Rules&quot; to create a socialist utopia as they envision it, and to eradicate liberty. 

We are in a fight of good vs evil. I believe that most who support liberal causes are not evil and bad people, but they have been immersed in the soup of an overwhelming message by &quot;The Left&quot; to keep them blinded to the truth. It is much easier to stir the soup with the &quot;poor is me&quot;, and &quot;them vs us&quot; messages of The Left versus the truth that Conservatism is by far the more humane, caring and nurturing philosophy. Where true Conservatism looks to lift up all people to their highest potential, Liberalism wants to keep all people down at the same predetermined level, (deemed &quot;enough&quot;) by the elitist ruling class of The Left. Thank you, but I choose the former over the latter. As Winston Churchill once said, &quot;If you are not liberal at twenty, you have no heart, and if you are not conservative at forty, you have no brain.&quot; Fact is we all have a brain, but we are in a &quot;Matrix&quot; sort of existence where most see what The Left programs and not what is real. 

The Left is like a tsunami which floods their message over the land compared to the trickle of a relative few who stand for truth and liberty. The fact that millions making up a majority will swim against the flood of The Left to seek out the trickle of truth is evidence of Conservatism being the true embodiment of the human condition. Or more to the point, the natural state of all humans is to be free. It is in our DNA. 

We will fight the good fight and hopefully prevail. I believe the future of America and mankind is at stake. Liberty&#039;s torch must not be extinguished by Socialism/The Left or that beacon which shines round the world to illuminate hope will be forever lost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Outstanding essay by Robert Ringer. I really do believe that many people are coming to the same conclusion. The lie behind BHO, like Man Made Climate Change (MMCC) is being revealed. </p>
<p>Note that as Ringer regards Alinsky, I similarly view BHO. I find him to be a brilliant and masterful politician. I believe he is a loving father and husband who is doing what he feels is best. Even though we are diametrically opposed politically, I see him as interesting in many ways. If this were merely an academic discussion, I have long felt that a theoretical debate with BHO would be similar to that described by Ringer in his discussion of Alinsky. </p>
<p>Not surprisingly, Team Obama cloaked BHO in Conservatism or at least a middle of the road illusion to get him elected President. Note that most on the left campaign to the center because they know the independents are largely conservative right of center. But at least BHO was honest enough to let his true message slip out. If you were listening, he is only doing as POTUS, what he said he would do as a candidate. Obama, like most Socialists, sees himself as the keeper of the truth who knows better what we all need than we each do individually. As much as I disagree, I am happy to have that debate any day on a level playing field. My beef is more with the co-conspirators, The Left, as I describe below, who have all but destroyed the idea of a free and fair press as keepers of the truth.</p>
<p>&#8220;The Left&#8221; (generic term for main stream media, pop culture and academia) attacks with a relentless fierce determination to demonize any nay-sayers of their message and especially their most current icons, BHO and MMCC. Detractors are labeled as conspiracy theorist red-neck loons and &#8220;flat-earthers&#8221; respectively. The two greatest lies of our generation and perhaps of civilization (BHO and MMCC) are being revealed, as part of the true conspiracy. I believe the ultimate goal of  modern Socialists, as supported by The Left, is the implementation of Alinsky&#8217;s &#8220;Rules&#8221; to create a socialist utopia as they envision it, and to eradicate liberty. </p>
<p>We are in a fight of good vs evil. I believe that most who support liberal causes are not evil and bad people, but they have been immersed in the soup of an overwhelming message by &#8220;The Left&#8221; to keep them blinded to the truth. It is much easier to stir the soup with the &#8220;poor is me&#8221;, and &#8220;them vs us&#8221; messages of The Left versus the truth that Conservatism is by far the more humane, caring and nurturing philosophy. Where true Conservatism looks to lift up all people to their highest potential, Liberalism wants to keep all people down at the same predetermined level, (deemed &#8220;enough&#8221;) by the elitist ruling class of The Left. Thank you, but I choose the former over the latter. As Winston Churchill once said, &#8220;If you are not liberal at twenty, you have no heart, and if you are not conservative at forty, you have no brain.&#8221; Fact is we all have a brain, but we are in a &#8220;Matrix&#8221; sort of existence where most see what The Left programs and not what is real. </p>
<p>The Left is like a tsunami which floods their message over the land compared to the trickle of a relative few who stand for truth and liberty. The fact that millions making up a majority will swim against the flood of The Left to seek out the trickle of truth is evidence of Conservatism being the true embodiment of the human condition. Or more to the point, the natural state of all humans is to be free. It is in our DNA. </p>
<p>We will fight the good fight and hopefully prevail. I believe the future of America and mankind is at stake. Liberty&#8217;s torch must not be extinguished by Socialism/The Left or that beacon which shines round the world to illuminate hope will be forever lost.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Saul, Barack, and Me, Part II by teddyboy46</title>
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		<dc:creator>teddyboy46</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 14:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Ringer has a perception of reality that has gotten blurred since he wrote &quot;Looking out for #1&quot; . I would like to remind Mr Ringer that Conservatives and Liberials simply argue over the Propaganda they have been given by the news media. Mr. Ringer has been seduced into believing the conservative propganda and argueing its merits.

A rational examination of the facts shows us that their has been a deliberate and well organized effort by the Big Corporations and wall street using their Whore the U.S. Goverment to eliminate the middle class and create a permenant under class.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Ringer has a perception of reality that has gotten blurred since he wrote &#8220;Looking out for #1&#8243; . I would like to remind Mr Ringer that Conservatives and Liberials simply argue over the Propaganda they have been given by the news media. Mr. Ringer has been seduced into believing the conservative propganda and argueing its merits.</p>
<p>A rational examination of the facts shows us that their has been a deliberate and well organized effort by the Big Corporations and wall street using their Whore the U.S. Goverment to eliminate the middle class and create a permenant under class.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Saul, Barack, and Me, Part II by Reality seeker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reality seeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 02:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish Mr. Ringer and everybody who reads and participates on his blog both a very joyful holiday season and a happy new year.

What a crazy year it&#039;s been! Nothing would surprise me in 2010. Nothing!  Before I comment on Saul Alinsky, here are my twelve educated guesses for 2010:

1) Obama&#039;s approval rating drops below Bush&#039;s lowest number.

2)Glenn Beck gets shot.

3)The official rate of inflation jumps past 6% as the real inflation rate is more than double that number.

4)The next 911, without any warning, happens, causing market turmoil and talk of a draft.

5)The Tea Parties triple in size as violence erupts.

6)Israel makes its preemptive move on Iran and Syria.

7)China develops its first brand name.

8)Casual dress starts to lose its appeal and respect as elegant fashion quietly makes a comeback.

9)The King of Thailand dies resulting in an all out civil war between the Red Shirts and Yellow Shirts that destabilizes the region.

10)The U.K.&#039;s credit rating drops below BBB.

11)The number of billionaires worldwide increases dramatically past record levels as millionaires are viewed as chicken feeders.

12) The frustrated, bewildered, riped-off, and desperate masses turn to and embrace a form of neo-survivalism as a means of self-preservation.


O.K. I agree, Saul Alinsky was a thinker and William F. Buckley, Jr. was right in his assessment. In fact, my opinion was and is almost identical to that of Mr. Buckley&#039;s. Saul Alinsky was correspondingly the same kind of evil genius that Professor James Moriarty was(i.e.the fictional character and the archenemy of the detective Sherlock Holmes). That&#039;s how I&#039;ve always thought of the man.

Moreover, it&#039;s been my personal and real life experience that when two such diametrically opposed individuals meet, that lunch inevitably ends up
only one way. Yes, the meeting ends the same way that Professor James Moriarty and Detective Sherlock Holmes&#039;s personal meetings always ended.

Life this year, well, it&#039;s been kind of funny, yet kind of strange. For instance, I find it truly fascinating that Mr. Ringer can suggest in a previous
blog that nuking a foreign country is acceptable, yet having lunch and intellectually conjugating with a &quot;fantasy friend&quot; the likes of Saul Alinsky(aka Professor Moriarty) is O.K. ----and might actually be enjoyable. Wow! What a contrast. Hey, how about
lunch with ‎سامة
بن محمد بن عوض بن لادن‎ ?(Osama Bin Laden)

I mean after all, Osama is both braver and smarter than Bush and Obama combined. And if somebody had to pick somebody else to share a foxhole with and fight a common enemy, then it would make a lot of sense to
pick a fighter and not a coward like some of our most recent presidents, right? So at least you can respect his talent, right? I mean just look at this guy Bin Laden. He laid it all on the line and gave up his elegant life in exchange for a cave. And look! Here he has got the most powerful country in the world spending billions chasing him in circles. Osama is a hero to millions!

And here America is killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people. Our troops are needlessly dieing. Time and again this Osama has outfoxed and out-lucked the &quot;awakened giant&quot;(aka the U.S.A. aka the blundering giant). The world hates America more and more with each passing day. So then, if you want to have lunch with somebody evil, a real heavyweight, forget that plague bearing flea Alinsky because Osama is your man.

The disgusting fact is that America has military bases in 150 countries. And in all these many years, America still hasn&#039;t learned how useless military conquest is in the end. It reminds me of sand; the
tighter you squeeze it, and the more it slips through your fingers. That&#039;s America&#039;s foreign policy now and in 2010! America, the blundering giant, is a country desperately griping and squeezing handfuls of foreign sand while trying to maintain a worldwide empire.

My holiday wish is that people see the light. When are people going to learn that being an empire that blows things up does not lead to a lasting victory.

Is there not one human on earth that understands that meaning of a CULTURAL VICTORY? Richard Nixon, as bad as he was, seemed to have a dim awareness of what a cultural victory was about when he opened up a
dialog and visited China. Robert McNamara, later in life and before he died, also seemed to understand. Sadly, Saul Alinsky understood what an evil cultural victory was. And now we are are going to reap what he sowed.


But evil does not only lurk in the hearts of socialists. No dear friends, sadly, it does not. Think about this: Declassified documents indicate that General MacArthur planned to drop as many as 50 nuclear bombs on China before President Truman fired him. Now, what if General MacArthur actually did nuke China? Do you think that would have been the right
thing to do?

Currently, when I visit China, I leave a third world airport in America and arrive in a modern airport built by a winning culture that is focused on economics and not war. I ride on a train that travels up to 350mph to cities that are modern and safe. Yes, it is true that rent-a-slaves are the backbone of China and the country is run by a bunch of
ruthless, face-saving communists. But those disgusting facts won&#039;t change the more important fact that very soon in 15 to 20 years from now China will be the next economic superpower if America doesn&#039;t act in its own best interest. Why?

Surprise! Because China has it more &quot;right on&quot; on a growing number of issues than America does,that&#039;s why.

There&#039;s a lesson to be learned from history. That&#039;s why I say it&#039;s time to close down all the military bases that are located on foreign sand, bring back the troops, and focus on winning a CULTURAL and
ECONOMIC VICTORY right here in America.

When America is attacked in the future, then let the military proportionally destroy whatever needs destroying and kill whomever needs killing. That&#039;s it. No more nation building. No more blowing up
and rebuilding. Do some killing and then just let sand be turned back into sand and dust be turned back into to dust and ashes to ashes; Leave it that way and go home.

As far as Saul Alinsky is concerned, individuals like him make me lose my appetite. Genius or no genius, I&#039;m glad that little flea that infected so many with the plague of socialism is dust. I hope all those who think like him join him real soon. As far as Osama goes: Shoot on sight and let the dogs eat him for lunch.........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish Mr. Ringer and everybody who reads and participates on his blog both a very joyful holiday season and a happy new year.</p>
<p>What a crazy year it&#8217;s been! Nothing would surprise me in 2010. Nothing!  Before I comment on Saul Alinsky, here are my twelve educated guesses for 2010:</p>
<p>1) Obama&#8217;s approval rating drops below Bush&#8217;s lowest number.</p>
<p>2)Glenn Beck gets shot.</p>
<p>3)The official rate of inflation jumps past 6% as the real inflation rate is more than double that number.</p>
<p>4)The next 911, without any warning, happens, causing market turmoil and talk of a draft.</p>
<p>5)The Tea Parties triple in size as violence erupts.</p>
<p>6)Israel makes its preemptive move on Iran and Syria.</p>
<p>7)China develops its first brand name.</p>
<p>8)Casual dress starts to lose its appeal and respect as elegant fashion quietly makes a comeback.</p>
<p>9)The King of Thailand dies resulting in an all out civil war between the Red Shirts and Yellow Shirts that destabilizes the region.</p>
<p>10)The U.K.&#8217;s credit rating drops below BBB.</p>
<p>11)The number of billionaires worldwide increases dramatically past record levels as millionaires are viewed as chicken feeders.</p>
<p>12) The frustrated, bewildered, riped-off, and desperate masses turn to and embrace a form of neo-survivalism as a means of self-preservation.</p>
<p>O.K. I agree, Saul Alinsky was a thinker and William F. Buckley, Jr. was right in his assessment. In fact, my opinion was and is almost identical to that of Mr. Buckley&#8217;s. Saul Alinsky was correspondingly the same kind of evil genius that Professor James Moriarty was(i.e.the fictional character and the archenemy of the detective Sherlock Holmes). That&#8217;s how I&#8217;ve always thought of the man.</p>
<p>Moreover, it&#8217;s been my personal and real life experience that when two such diametrically opposed individuals meet, that lunch inevitably ends up<br />
only one way. Yes, the meeting ends the same way that Professor James Moriarty and Detective Sherlock Holmes&#8217;s personal meetings always ended.</p>
<p>Life this year, well, it&#8217;s been kind of funny, yet kind of strange. For instance, I find it truly fascinating that Mr. Ringer can suggest in a previous<br />
blog that nuking a foreign country is acceptable, yet having lunch and intellectually conjugating with a &#8220;fantasy friend&#8221; the likes of Saul Alinsky(aka Professor Moriarty) is O.K. &#8212;-and might actually be enjoyable. Wow! What a contrast. Hey, how about<br />
lunch with ‎سامة<br />
بن محمد بن عوض بن لادن‎ ?(Osama Bin Laden)</p>
<p>I mean after all, Osama is both braver and smarter than Bush and Obama combined. And if somebody had to pick somebody else to share a foxhole with and fight a common enemy, then it would make a lot of sense to<br />
pick a fighter and not a coward like some of our most recent presidents, right? So at least you can respect his talent, right? I mean just look at this guy Bin Laden. He laid it all on the line and gave up his elegant life in exchange for a cave. And look! Here he has got the most powerful country in the world spending billions chasing him in circles. Osama is a hero to millions!</p>
<p>And here America is killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people. Our troops are needlessly dieing. Time and again this Osama has outfoxed and out-lucked the &#8220;awakened giant&#8221;(aka the U.S.A. aka the blundering giant). The world hates America more and more with each passing day. So then, if you want to have lunch with somebody evil, a real heavyweight, forget that plague bearing flea Alinsky because Osama is your man.</p>
<p>The disgusting fact is that America has military bases in 150 countries. And in all these many years, America still hasn&#8217;t learned how useless military conquest is in the end. It reminds me of sand; the<br />
tighter you squeeze it, and the more it slips through your fingers. That&#8217;s America&#8217;s foreign policy now and in 2010! America, the blundering giant, is a country desperately griping and squeezing handfuls of foreign sand while trying to maintain a worldwide empire.</p>
<p>My holiday wish is that people see the light. When are people going to learn that being an empire that blows things up does not lead to a lasting victory.</p>
<p>Is there not one human on earth that understands that meaning of a CULTURAL VICTORY? Richard Nixon, as bad as he was, seemed to have a dim awareness of what a cultural victory was about when he opened up a<br />
dialog and visited China. Robert McNamara, later in life and before he died, also seemed to understand. Sadly, Saul Alinsky understood what an evil cultural victory was. And now we are are going to reap what he sowed.</p>
<p>But evil does not only lurk in the hearts of socialists. No dear friends, sadly, it does not. Think about this: Declassified documents indicate that General MacArthur planned to drop as many as 50 nuclear bombs on China before President Truman fired him. Now, what if General MacArthur actually did nuke China? Do you think that would have been the right<br />
thing to do?</p>
<p>Currently, when I visit China, I leave a third world airport in America and arrive in a modern airport built by a winning culture that is focused on economics and not war. I ride on a train that travels up to 350mph to cities that are modern and safe. Yes, it is true that rent-a-slaves are the backbone of China and the country is run by a bunch of<br />
ruthless, face-saving communists. But those disgusting facts won&#8217;t change the more important fact that very soon in 15 to 20 years from now China will be the next economic superpower if America doesn&#8217;t act in its own best interest. Why?</p>
<p>Surprise! Because China has it more &#8220;right on&#8221; on a growing number of issues than America does,that&#8217;s why.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a lesson to be learned from history. That&#8217;s why I say it&#8217;s time to close down all the military bases that are located on foreign sand, bring back the troops, and focus on winning a CULTURAL and<br />
ECONOMIC VICTORY right here in America.</p>
<p>When America is attacked in the future, then let the military proportionally destroy whatever needs destroying and kill whomever needs killing. That&#8217;s it. No more nation building. No more blowing up<br />
and rebuilding. Do some killing and then just let sand be turned back into sand and dust be turned back into to dust and ashes to ashes; Leave it that way and go home.</p>
<p>As far as Saul Alinsky is concerned, individuals like him make me lose my appetite. Genius or no genius, I&#8217;m glad that little flea that infected so many with the plague of socialism is dust. I hope all those who think like him join him real soon. As far as Osama goes: Shoot on sight and let the dogs eat him for lunch&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Bonter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 21:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The primary rule and agenda for Radicals, a.k.a. Communist subversives, is DESTABILIZATION.  Destabilize the family; destabilize religion and the church by casting P.C. aspersions and proscriptions upon public depictions of Christmas and Christianity; destabilize moral/ethical values by substituing an &quot;equality&quot; criteria, thereby elevating morally bankrupt life style people as socially acceptable, and academic corruptors of the young generation as the parental proxy for &quot;values&quot; indoctrination.

 Destabilize the foundation for society by emasculating young men, and inculcating a masculinine psychology and physiogomy in young women via incessant television subliminal suggestion inconsistent with the natural male/female dichotomy, as evolved over millions of years, beginning with the division of labor and traditional relative roles in society.

Also destablize this nation via a massive demographics/immigration restructuring and demolition. And Destabilize our entire globe via the promulgating of imponderable, unsupportable &quot;crises,&quot; and with it unsuportable cost and micro-management, as pertains to the ecology  and doom and gloom media-induced hysteria spouted by reckless, demagogic, irresponsible, duplicitous public officials. And destabilize our national economy and render our international financial and currency leverage relatively impotent, via rampant inflation of the dollar, and via the exponential expansion of government long-term debt, to the point of economic collapse and a severe (upcoming) monetary devaluation. Further destabilize and impede the natural flow of goods and services via confiscatory taxation, so that massive indebtedness plagues the vast majority of households in this nation. 

And finally, destabilize the freedoms, upon which this nation was founded, along with our Constitutional guarantees consistent with individual sovereignty and initiative to forge a properous, moral, and ever-increasing standard of living for succeeding generations as virtually non-existent, from erstwhile freedoms of speech and choice, to the point whereby, today, all our personal and private activity is monitored  and codified, and a vast range of NORMAL human behavior is criminalized so that those holding power and dominion over our lives can further profit and subjugate the rest of us who enfranchised them, via the &quot;democratic process,&quot; in the first place. 

The supremacy of God in our national consciousness has been usurped by the Godless, and our lot has become an insufferable daily burden, with little hope for redress, now or forever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The primary rule and agenda for Radicals, a.k.a. Communist subversives, is DESTABILIZATION.  Destabilize the family; destabilize religion and the church by casting P.C. aspersions and proscriptions upon public depictions of Christmas and Christianity; destabilize moral/ethical values by substituing an &#8220;equality&#8221; criteria, thereby elevating morally bankrupt life style people as socially acceptable, and academic corruptors of the young generation as the parental proxy for &#8220;values&#8221; indoctrination.</p>
<p> Destabilize the foundation for society by emasculating young men, and inculcating a masculinine psychology and physiogomy in young women via incessant television subliminal suggestion inconsistent with the natural male/female dichotomy, as evolved over millions of years, beginning with the division of labor and traditional relative roles in society.</p>
<p>Also destablize this nation via a massive demographics/immigration restructuring and demolition. And Destabilize our entire globe via the promulgating of imponderable, unsupportable &#8220;crises,&#8221; and with it unsuportable cost and micro-management, as pertains to the ecology  and doom and gloom media-induced hysteria spouted by reckless, demagogic, irresponsible, duplicitous public officials. And destabilize our national economy and render our international financial and currency leverage relatively impotent, via rampant inflation of the dollar, and via the exponential expansion of government long-term debt, to the point of economic collapse and a severe (upcoming) monetary devaluation. Further destabilize and impede the natural flow of goods and services via confiscatory taxation, so that massive indebtedness plagues the vast majority of households in this nation. </p>
<p>And finally, destabilize the freedoms, upon which this nation was founded, along with our Constitutional guarantees consistent with individual sovereignty and initiative to forge a properous, moral, and ever-increasing standard of living for succeeding generations as virtually non-existent, from erstwhile freedoms of speech and choice, to the point whereby, today, all our personal and private activity is monitored  and codified, and a vast range of NORMAL human behavior is criminalized so that those holding power and dominion over our lives can further profit and subjugate the rest of us who enfranchised them, via the &#8220;democratic process,&#8221; in the first place. </p>
<p>The supremacy of God in our national consciousness has been usurped by the Godless, and our lot has become an insufferable daily burden, with little hope for redress, now or forever.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Kelsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 21:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please pardon my rose-colored view, but from what I am seeing there are a lot of Liberty-loving people using the very same tactics espoused by people like Saul Alinsky, which I think is a very good thing.  What we need is to have more &quot;training&quot; for those who seek Liberty, to bring them up to speed on how best to achieve their goals.  The big challenge at this time is to survive the onslaught by those like Reid, Pelosi and Obama until enough people can be convinced to do something peaceful and constructive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please pardon my rose-colored view, but from what I am seeing there are a lot of Liberty-loving people using the very same tactics espoused by people like Saul Alinsky, which I think is a very good thing.  What we need is to have more &#8220;training&#8221; for those who seek Liberty, to bring them up to speed on how best to achieve their goals.  The big challenge at this time is to survive the onslaught by those like Reid, Pelosi and Obama until enough people can be convinced to do something peaceful and constructive.</p>
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		<dc:creator>deusimplicitus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 21:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone once astutely pointed out (and yes, it was of course you Robert), which is the unvarnished universal truth behind all human behavior,(I&#039;m paraphrasing from memory) &quot;Don&#039;t listen to what people say. Watch what they do. Their actions reveal their honest and true intentions and motivations.&quot;

Words are abstracts and as such, words have been recognized to be good for only two worldly things.....deceiving others, as well as wooing women.

Some of us already know, recognize, and understand the sophistry and demagoguery exhibited and illustrated on a daily basis, by politicians and political activists. It&#039;s the other people who are still wet behind the ears or too gullible to know better how &quot;the game&quot; is played, that need to be addressed and educated.

Hoffer&#039;s &quot;true believers&quot;. They will be the   ruination of us all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone once astutely pointed out (and yes, it was of course you Robert), which is the unvarnished universal truth behind all human behavior,(I&#8217;m paraphrasing from memory) &#8220;Don&#8217;t listen to what people say. Watch what they do. Their actions reveal their honest and true intentions and motivations.&#8221;</p>
<p>Words are abstracts and as such, words have been recognized to be good for only two worldly things&#8230;..deceiving others, as well as wooing women.</p>
<p>Some of us already know, recognize, and understand the sophistry and demagoguery exhibited and illustrated on a daily basis, by politicians and political activists. It&#8217;s the other people who are still wet behind the ears or too gullible to know better how &#8220;the game&#8221; is played, that need to be addressed and educated.</p>
<p>Hoffer&#8217;s &#8220;true believers&#8221;. They will be the   ruination of us all.</p>
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		<dc:creator>quickdraw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 20:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another excellent essay, Robert.  No, you aren&#039;t the only one to cringe when G W Bush handed the keys to the country to BHO; I cringe every time I am reminded that Nancy Pelosi is still Speaker of the House and that Harry Reid is the Senate Majority Leader.  

Thank you for helping me educate the people I know who voted for BHO and are disillusioned by the &quot;change&quot; he brought.  Our only hope is to somehow minimize the destruction brought on by the enemies of freedom until we can throw enough of them out in 2010 and begin the long, slow journey to taking our country back from the radicals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another excellent essay, Robert.  No, you aren&#8217;t the only one to cringe when G W Bush handed the keys to the country to BHO; I cringe every time I am reminded that Nancy Pelosi is still Speaker of the House and that Harry Reid is the Senate Majority Leader.  </p>
<p>Thank you for helping me educate the people I know who voted for BHO and are disillusioned by the &#8220;change&#8221; he brought.  Our only hope is to somehow minimize the destruction brought on by the enemies of freedom until we can throw enough of them out in 2010 and begin the long, slow journey to taking our country back from the radicals.</p>
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		<dc:creator>davinci07</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 06:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Robert,

I need clarification about something you wrote in your latest article:

&quot;And, clearly, Obama had a dysfunctional life growing up — a white Marxist mother, a black African Muslim father who was a drunk and a philanderer, then, of all things, an Indonesian Muslim stepfather&quot;

Why do you say &quot;of all things, an Indonesian Muslim stepfather&quot;? Why &quot;of all things&quot;?

Thanks.

Andy Iskandar</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Robert,</p>
<p>I need clarification about something you wrote in your latest article:</p>
<p>&#8220;And, clearly, Obama had a dysfunctional life growing up — a white Marxist mother, a black African Muslim father who was a drunk and a philanderer, then, of all things, an Indonesian Muslim stepfather&#8221;</p>
<p>Why do you say &#8220;of all things, an Indonesian Muslim stepfather&#8221;? Why &#8220;of all things&#8221;?</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>Andy Iskandar</p>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Bonter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert: You reference to BHO as a &quot;Socialist&quot; could be a bit stronger - such as &quot;Communist.&quot;  My take  (not all original observations) on some  presidential &quot;firsts,&quot; is as follows...

First Socialist Demagogic President:  Franklin D. Roosevelt

First Anti-American Victory Wartime President:  Harry S. Truman

First &quot;With A Little Help From My Friends In Illinois and Texas&quot; fraudulently elected President:  John F. Kennedy

First  &quot;The Great Frontier can include a Viet Nam quagmire&quot; President:  Lyndon Baines Johnson

First &quot;In Over His Head Politically Correct Peanut Farmer&quot; President:  Jimmy Carter

First  HarMONICA-playing Black President:  Bill Clinton

First &quot;Let&#039;s Just Have Tea and Cookies In The Rose Garden With Our Sworn Mortal Enemies&quot; President:  Barack Insein Obama

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert: You reference to BHO as a &#8220;Socialist&#8221; could be a bit stronger &#8211; such as &#8220;Communist.&#8221;  My take  (not all original observations) on some  presidential &#8220;firsts,&#8221; is as follows&#8230;</p>
<p>First Socialist Demagogic President:  Franklin D. Roosevelt</p>
<p>First Anti-American Victory Wartime President:  Harry S. Truman</p>
<p>First &#8220;With A Little Help From My Friends In Illinois and Texas&#8221; fraudulently elected President:  John F. Kennedy</p>
<p>First  &#8220;The Great Frontier can include a Viet Nam quagmire&#8221; President:  Lyndon Baines Johnson</p>
<p>First &#8220;In Over His Head Politically Correct Peanut Farmer&#8221; President:  Jimmy Carter</p>
<p>First  HarMONICA-playing Black President:  Bill Clinton</p>
<p>First &#8220;Let&#8217;s Just Have Tea and Cookies In The Rose Garden With Our Sworn Mortal Enemies&#8221; President:  Barack Insein Obama</p>
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		<title>Comment on Saul, Barack, and Me, Part I by Tom Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert, it&#039;s not surprising that you could like and even enjoy someone who&#039;s radically different and even antithetical to your own belief system. 

Ted Bundy was a charming, good looking, and likable serial killer. When tried, he represented himself, and by all accounts did a good job.

But here&#039;s the kicker. The judge who sentenced him to death said, &quot;. . .You&#039;re a bright young man. You&#039;d have made a good lawyer, and I would have loved to have you practice in front of me, . . .&quot;

The driving force of men like Alinsky is the same force that brought Lenin, Stalin, Mao, and other despots to murder millions of their own people, because they didn&#039;t agree with them or threatened them in any way. 

Some of them, before they had real power, might have been wonderful luncheon partners too. 

Respectfully,

Tom Justin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert, it&#8217;s not surprising that you could like and even enjoy someone who&#8217;s radically different and even antithetical to your own belief system. </p>
<p>Ted Bundy was a charming, good looking, and likable serial killer. When tried, he represented himself, and by all accounts did a good job.</p>
<p>But here&#8217;s the kicker. The judge who sentenced him to death said, &#8220;. . .You&#8217;re a bright young man. You&#8217;d have made a good lawyer, and I would have loved to have you practice in front of me, . . .&#8221;</p>
<p>The driving force of men like Alinsky is the same force that brought Lenin, Stalin, Mao, and other despots to murder millions of their own people, because they didn&#8217;t agree with them or threatened them in any way. </p>
<p>Some of them, before they had real power, might have been wonderful luncheon partners too. </p>
<p>Respectfully,</p>
<p>Tom Justin</p>
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		<dc:creator>deusimplicitus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert,
B.H.O.&#039;s beliefs and actions have everything to do with basic human aberrant psychology and the subjective emotional filtering processes that are programmed into the human brain during early childhood. The fact that American&#039;s had really no truly viable candidate choices in the last election, and during such a serious crisis period in our history, illustrates the level of true decline that this nation has experienced in the last few presidential elections. McCain or Obama? It was comparable to a heads I win, tails you lose scenario for the American people. We all lost before the last Presidential election was ever decided. The fact that G.W.B. strayed so far from the standard party values and platform and in doing so alienated so many voters, contributed greatly to the election of B.H.O. .  There have been many destructive past historical figures, to their own nations and the world, who could easily illustrate the dysfunctional thinking processes exhibited in adulthood that were, in hindsight, traceable to abusive, unstable, and unloving childhoods. 

   Does this mean that those of us who clearly recognize the extreme danger we are all in under the thumb of these  powerful liberty hating political figures, should have sympathy and compassion for their actions solely because they were psychologically damaged in early childhood through no fault of their own, yet are under the influence of a malfunctioning brain that seeks to carry out a self gratifying neurotic agenda (supported by other seriously neurotic and even psychotic politicians)? Absolutely not as we have an obligation to ourselves, those who have sacrificed for our liberty in the past, and to our children to fight the good fight.

When in danger, ostriches are not spared due to the fact that they hide their heads in the sand. They get eaten by predators all the same.

A person stepping back from the conservative/liberal blind hypnotic sidelines cheering has to ask the question of how so many Americans can continue to be played and fooled by what seems to be a never ending stream of political demagogues, liars, manipulators, and basically psychologically unbalanced characters?

My analysis is that these smarmy and deceptive politicians DO in fact represent us and who we have moralistically and psychologically become.

We can no longer see the faults in those we elect to represent us, due to the fact that those same faults and flaws have become the norm in a growing majority of American voters.  

The mantra of &quot;Don&#039;t be judgmental!&quot; has been so implanted into the American psyche, that Americans will embrace and actually forgive transgressions and flaws exhibited by those we have elected as our representatives, because to point the finger at these corrupt and self serving politicians, and state that their actions and thinking processes are wrong, would cause the need for individual self reflection and then remedial correction towards a more clearly disciplined and defined system of values for each individual in our society. 

We, as a society and nation, are not ready nor willing to do that. We are a nation in total denial of the depravity of what we have allowed ourselves to become.
This hard reality is easily denied as there is societal and cultural group support for the subjective perceptions and mass denial in the recognition and admittance of the downward slide we find ourselves in.

Can any of our leaders be considered the Antichrist or perhaps just plain evil? It&#039;s more likely that we&#039;re just the repeating pattern of history where one nation becomes affluent, powerful, and arrogant, and then loses it&#039;s way, tossing aside the values that helped that nation achieve hegemony, due to the seductive and insidious influences of too much useless leisure, too much false entitlement beliefs, and too little honest and objective self reflection which would restore a stronger sense of self discipline and commitment to more long term personal and national goals.

&quot;We have met the enemy, and he is us&quot; (Walt Kelly)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert,<br />
B.H.O.&#8217;s beliefs and actions have everything to do with basic human aberrant psychology and the subjective emotional filtering processes that are programmed into the human brain during early childhood. The fact that American&#8217;s had really no truly viable candidate choices in the last election, and during such a serious crisis period in our history, illustrates the level of true decline that this nation has experienced in the last few presidential elections. McCain or Obama? It was comparable to a heads I win, tails you lose scenario for the American people. We all lost before the last Presidential election was ever decided. The fact that G.W.B. strayed so far from the standard party values and platform and in doing so alienated so many voters, contributed greatly to the election of B.H.O. .  There have been many destructive past historical figures, to their own nations and the world, who could easily illustrate the dysfunctional thinking processes exhibited in adulthood that were, in hindsight, traceable to abusive, unstable, and unloving childhoods. </p>
<p>   Does this mean that those of us who clearly recognize the extreme danger we are all in under the thumb of these  powerful liberty hating political figures, should have sympathy and compassion for their actions solely because they were psychologically damaged in early childhood through no fault of their own, yet are under the influence of a malfunctioning brain that seeks to carry out a self gratifying neurotic agenda (supported by other seriously neurotic and even psychotic politicians)? Absolutely not as we have an obligation to ourselves, those who have sacrificed for our liberty in the past, and to our children to fight the good fight.</p>
<p>When in danger, ostriches are not spared due to the fact that they hide their heads in the sand. They get eaten by predators all the same.</p>
<p>A person stepping back from the conservative/liberal blind hypnotic sidelines cheering has to ask the question of how so many Americans can continue to be played and fooled by what seems to be a never ending stream of political demagogues, liars, manipulators, and basically psychologically unbalanced characters?</p>
<p>My analysis is that these smarmy and deceptive politicians DO in fact represent us and who we have moralistically and psychologically become.</p>
<p>We can no longer see the faults in those we elect to represent us, due to the fact that those same faults and flaws have become the norm in a growing majority of American voters.  </p>
<p>The mantra of &#8220;Don&#8217;t be judgmental!&#8221; has been so implanted into the American psyche, that Americans will embrace and actually forgive transgressions and flaws exhibited by those we have elected as our representatives, because to point the finger at these corrupt and self serving politicians, and state that their actions and thinking processes are wrong, would cause the need for individual self reflection and then remedial correction towards a more clearly disciplined and defined system of values for each individual in our society. </p>
<p>We, as a society and nation, are not ready nor willing to do that. We are a nation in total denial of the depravity of what we have allowed ourselves to become.<br />
This hard reality is easily denied as there is societal and cultural group support for the subjective perceptions and mass denial in the recognition and admittance of the downward slide we find ourselves in.</p>
<p>Can any of our leaders be considered the Antichrist or perhaps just plain evil? It&#8217;s more likely that we&#8217;re just the repeating pattern of history where one nation becomes affluent, powerful, and arrogant, and then loses it&#8217;s way, tossing aside the values that helped that nation achieve hegemony, due to the seductive and insidious influences of too much useless leisure, too much false entitlement beliefs, and too little honest and objective self reflection which would restore a stronger sense of self discipline and commitment to more long term personal and national goals.</p>
<p>&#8220;We have met the enemy, and he is us&#8221; (Walt Kelly)</p>
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